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yogthos OP ,
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I love how after reddit migration we now have a bunch of US empire shills here downvoting anything positive about China.

erin ,
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Didn’t china the one asking japan and south korea to come closer to china geopolitic veil? Seems that’s not the best move to convince them…

HobbitFoot ,

China tends to do that a lot.

yogthos OP ,
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A country putting wellbeing of their own people over geopolitic games seems like the right move to me. I would certainly not want to be eating food from a place where people shit where they eat.

u_tamtam ,
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Because this is all about food safety, and not a geopolitic game of its own, riiiiight? :)

yogthos OP ,
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Yeah, protecting the public from food sourced in water contaminated by nuclear waste is actually China playing 4D geopolitical chess. There’s an easy way for Japan to avoid the whole issue here by not dumping nuclear waste into the ocean, but I guess they’ll just be able to sell it to people living in western countries whose governments don’t give a shit about them.

u_tamtam ,
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Do you live in China? Perhaps you miss some first-hand exposure of the political dynamics of the two countries.

yogthos OP ,
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I don’t live in China, but I’m perfectly aware of the political dynamics between Japan and China. None of that changes the fact that Japan discharging nuclear waste into the ocean is a legitimate reason for avoiding seafood from Japan. It’s honestly kind of impressive the amount of effort you’re spending here trying to paint this as something other than that.

u_tamtam ,
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I asked earlier a restaurant/pub table neighbour if he knew about not getting seafood from Japan, he was only surprised that it wasn’t banned already. Except maybe for some body care products, you don’t ever see anything being advertised as coming from Japan or being culturally associated with Japan, that draws customers anger. Propaganda running new reasons to hate on Japan is business as usual.

None of that changes the fact that Japan discharging nuclear waste into the ocean is a legitimate reason for avoiding seafood from Japan.

Absolutely, as soon China can bring evidence that safe levels of radiation as assessed by an independent international organization represent a safety risk to their people. For some, oh, color me surprised, unbelievable reason they didn’t.

yogthos OP ,
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Yeah, imagine erring on the side of caution. Again, impressive amounts of work you’re putting into spinning this as a nefarious plot of some sort.

u_tamtam ,
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yep, erring on the side of caution regarding nuclear safety levels, that sounds totally like China, as we saw no later than two years ago at Taishan. Sure.

yogthos OP ,
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Oh wow, after a lot of digging you found an article about a French company having potential issues in China. If that’s the best you can do then you gotta work harder at your troll game.

u_tamtam ,
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If your reading comprehension wasn’t so blinded, you would have figured that this nuclear power plant is not only designed by the French, but is co-operated by them. Operators of the plant themselves raised the alarm, knowing very well what they were dealing with, having designed, built and operated the plant. And you can minimize this and call me a troll as much as you like, fact is that this was world news when it came up, further demonstrating that your perception of world events really is off-base.

yogthos OP ,
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Again, if this is the best you were able to find and you think that’s an amazing counter point, what else is there to tell you really.

u_tamtam ,
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Whether you like it or not that perfectly contradicts your “China defaults to safety where it comes to nuclear outbreak”. I’ll leave you there alone bumping into your own fallacies and contradictions now.

yogthos OP ,
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That’s obviously what you believe, so I don’t see any point arguing further. Wake me up when there’s a nuclear outbreak in China that actually happens though.

u_tamtam ,
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And then what, you think that I’d take pleasure in that, while sitting at the front row, with the satisfaction to say that “I told you so”?

yogthos OP ,
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That’s a weird direction to take things in. I’m simply pointing out that China has a pretty good safety record when it comes to use of nuclear energy, and it’s one of the biggest users of nuclear globally. So, this narrative you’re painting doesn’t seem to really hold up in face of that.

And I’m not denying that political games between Japan and China are going on as they are everywhere in the world. I’m just pointing out that I would personally be happy with my government avoiding food from a place where nuclear waste was discharged recently. Even if the risks are claimed to be low, no risk at all is obviously better.

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