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Haus , (edited )
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I saw an article earlier today about shutting down Diego Garcia. Doubt it'll happen anytime soon, but if they do, that stuff - and there's a lot of it - would probably move to Oz.

(Found the article on lemmy - https://startrek.website/post/1093559)

DogMuffins ,

Curious about what stuff? Missiles? Troops? Hardware?

Haus ,
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Garcia#United_States_military_activities

zephyreks ,

Do Australians have a choice? We in Canada have had to put up with American military bullshit while they’ve been looking at our Northwest Passage with suspiciously greedy eyes.

That’s our fucking sea, go get your own.

CollisionResistance OP ,

When Albanese asked for dropping the persecution against Julian Assange, Blinken told him to fuck off. So no, Australians don’t have a choice.

DogMuffins ,

I don’t think this means much. This is always the response from any nation when any other nation tries to tell them what to do with criminals. In many ways it’s the only possible response.

Fazoo ,
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Oof. That’s a hot take. You know Alaska makes up part of that coastline, right? Basic geography, but you seem like you might take issue with that anyway.

zephyreks ,

Not the relevant part of the Northwest Passage. Go away, US Psyops

Fazoo ,
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    zephyreks ,

    Meanwhile still not addressing how the Northwest Passage lies entirely in Canadian waters.

    rolandtb303 ,
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    True I fucking hate how the US wants to be buddy buddy with us when they’re actually fucking us over. I mean we have some of their worst traits here (especially one of them being the lobbying of a certain US “ally” influencing public opinion on it so that it’s always seen as a good guy and a victim).

    I just wish we could get rid of all of that and just let us be us.

    DogMuffins ,

    I despise American culture but I’m not really aware of how they’re fucking us over? (… but I may be naive to that I guess).

    zephyreks ,

    The NSA has been spying on German officials, the US government poured hundreds of billions of dollars on the F-35 project to stymie everyone else’s domestic fighter programs, aggressively subsidizes American agriculture for export, and may arbitrarily institute aggressive tariffs that harm the economies of its allies.

    DogMuffins ,

    Depends what you mean. Our government has a very long standing relationship with the US, and it would probably be difficult to extricate ourselves from that in any meaningful way in the short term. Whether or not individual people have a choice - not really. I expect the majority of Australian’s welcome the (perhaps illusionary) security afforded by our relationship with the US.

    China has been at least a consumer of Australian produce if not an “ally”, but they’ve shown a willingness to bully us economically over minor political disagreements. If a military relationship is a gateway to any sort of economic relationship with the US then it’s probably a good thing. They already gave us submarine tech which will provide us some economic benefits as we manufacture them and sell to our allies.

    zephyreks ,

    The US has shown a willingness to bully Canada in trade and ignore international consensus on topics like our softwood exports. The recent US-Canada trade war under the Trump administration has also hampered trade in what SHOULD BE one of the most coupled economies in the world.

    A tightly-coupled economic relationship with the US is a double-edged sword when the whims of the country seem to flip-flop every 4 years.

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