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Sir_Kevin ,
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“warns”??? Why are low birth rates always reported as a horrible thing? This world needs fewer people!

Rapidcreek OP ,

Basically an aging population makes it hard for a country to find replacement workers for its economy, which results in stagnation. Takes more than a couple of bad years, though.

Sir_Kevin ,
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That’s true in extreme circumstances but we’re no where near any threshold for having a lack talented people willing to work for a fair wage.

I can’t recall the exact timeframe but the world’s population has doubled in the last few decades. I’m not advocating for removing anyone but if we could slow down the making of new people that would benefit everyone.

Rapidcreek OP ,

Japan has this very problem right now,

Sir_Kevin ,
@Sir_Kevin@discuss.online avatar

Ok, I’ll give you that one. Japan is a unique country in that regard.

MaxPower ,
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It will be just a matter of time until their goverment makes “producing” children mandatory because it will be declared a matter of national security. Or more like, a matter of the Communist Party’s security.

InvertedParallax ,

Its not children the CCP wants, there are tons of families in China producing children.

Unfortunately they’re not Han children :(

Fazoo ,
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The only conversion therapy China is interested in. You will be Han, and you will like it!

gnuhaut ,

Ah yes, the country that had for decades exempted minorities from the one child policy only wants Han children. Where do you people get this from?

InvertedParallax ,

apnews.com/…/ap-top-news-international-news-weeke…

www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713

aljazeera.com/…/china-forcing-birth-control-on-ui…

Let me guess, every single media source in the world is lying and the CCP is the only one telling the truth.

Your government are basically modern nazis, except their Aryan race is Han Chinese.

boredtortoise ,

I think saying “your government” is too mean towards the commenter. They might not work for that government and the people of that country are hostages so maybe they’re just someone elsewhere with misinformed knowledge currently? Otherwise an informative post

InvertedParallax ,

Your point is fair, I just met many mainland Chinese, and while some buy in, most tend to take a “yes the government is evil, but what can you do?” Approach.

I tend to take defenders as either paid or unpaid collaborators because I consider it a safe assumption, but I am taking liberties.

gnuhaut , (edited )

AP news article

Cites as source Adrian Zenz, an evangelical Christian on a mission from god to fight the godless communists, who writes non-peer-reviewed articles and is funded by the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, which itself is funded by the US government, and which officially counts Nazi soldiers killed on the eastern front during WW2 as victims of communism.

Adrian Zenz co-authored a book on biblical numerology, trying to find hidden codes in the bible to decipher when the apocalypse is going to occur: Worthy to Escape: Why All Believers Will Not Be Raptured Before the Tribulation

He’s a total clown and his “data analysis” on birth control in Xinjiang has been debunked for being blatant misinterpretation of statistics.

More insane shit about Zenz is collected here: en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Adrian_Zenz

They also interview a woman who will be fined for having a third child, which was the law for every woman in China at the time.

That shitty article even backs my point:

For decades, China had one of the most extensive systems of minority entitlements in the world, with Uighurs and others getting more points on college entrance exams, hiring quotas for government posts and laxer birth control restrictions. Under China’s now-abandoned ‘one child’ policy, the authorities had long encouraged, often forced, contraceptives, sterilization and abortion on Han Chinese. But minorities were allowed two children — three if they came from the countryside.

Choice quote to underline the bias of this article:

State-backed scholars have warned for years that large rural religious families were at the root of bombings, knifings and other attacks the Xinjiang government blamed on Islamic terrorists.

Are they insinuating that these were not carried out by Islamist terrorists? Who did that then and why?

BBC article

Again based on a report by Adrian Zenz, see above. First sentence:

The report, by China scholar Adrian Zenz, has prompted international calls for the United Nations to investigate.

Aljazeera article

Is literally just reporting on the AP news article above. They have a link to it and everything.

Uranium3006 ,
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If Romania is anything to go by it would flop horribly

argv_minus_one ,

Not surprising. Bringing an innocent child into this doomed world isn’t exactly the best idea.

PeWu ,

That’s my opinion about having children. I’m not gonna bring another human to this cursed world

awwwyissss ,

Yep. Bad for the child, bad for the world. Too many of us already, way too many, and there’s absolutely nowhere else to go.

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