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Corkyskog ,

God war sucks.

At some point I find myself almost wishing for terrorism, like sneak a few Ukrainians in over the Suny Oblast area border and blow up commercial buildings at night…

Then I remember that the whole thing breaks if Ukrainians start being as bad as Russia. (Not that it would be as bad as what they have done, but few people would support that)

BurnTheRight , (edited )

The whole thing does not break if Ukraine crosses lines that Russia already crosses. Fuck that. Don't allow the conservative aggressors to establish an unfair set of rules. Every rule Russia breaks that goes unenforced should be disregarded by all parties. Ruzzia insists on making rules, make them suffer by their own rules.

variaatio ,

SO if Russia starts lobbing around chemical and biological weapons, then Ukraine should do that too? Like not gonna work like that, for example biological weapons are one of those were you can’t just go “tit-for-tat”. Since every biological weapon used is new risk of launching a pandemic on the world and so on.

To certain level, yes if other side breakes the rules, we get to break them also. However there is a line. Line which you never cross. Under no circumstances should Ukraine be allowed to target medical facilities, even on Russia having done it multitude of times. Indiscriminate intentional bombardment of still habited cities with no allowing of civilians to evacuate should always be off the table. You just don’t do that. All it leads is to needless human suffering.

It’s one thing to aim for military or strategic target and miss and hit civilians. That is recognized as reality of war. Terror bombardment? Never to be allowed. Not to mention it doesn’t work. Every example in history has shown all it does is make the receiving end angry, instead of demoralizing them. It sets a “So it’s to the last breath then? That is the name of the game, fine that is the name of the game” and they fight to bitter end.

broguy89 ,

Except nuclear powers are not allowed to lose. That’s why everyone wants to be a nuclear power and all the nuclear powers don’t want any new nuclear powers.

chowder ,

Nuclear powers aren’t allowed to lose? Like the American Vietnam war or the first Russian Chechnya war?

RadButNotAChad ,

I would support it. Make the average citizen of Russia feel as unsafe as the Ukranians feel. I’m not saying target civilians, but make it known you can. Russia isn’t playing by the rules. If Russia manages to crush Ukraine, will anyone sleep better at night going ‘At least Ukraine played fair’.

jwmgregory , (edited )

you guys are fucking crazy. ukrainian government knows there’s a very tangible and real possibility of defeat, or at the least concessions to russia during negotiations. do you really think it is in their best interests to let the kremlin make claims about ukrainian acts of terror during that stage?? like it or not, the world isnt some fucking equitable, fair fairy tale. russia has significantly more bargaining power here. they can afford ukraine making such claims, that doesn’t matter. on the flip side, ukraine cannot.

Firipu ,
@Firipu@startrek.website avatar

Thanks for a sane take on this. War isn’t tit for tat, war is incredibly unfair

HuddaBudda ,
@HuddaBudda@kbin.social avatar

Defenders always have home field advantage.

Basically means in war, if one side is attacking and one side is defending, the odds are in the defenders favor. As they can deploy mines, IEDs, traps, advance structural defenses, turrets, and ambushes locations.

Which is why it was so stupid to invade Ukraine in the first place and why it is going to be hard for Ukraine to take back territory.

TokenBoomer ,

Weird way to say they are losing.

Hubi ,

Advancing slower than expected ≠ losing

TokenBoomer ,

Advancing slower than expected= winning. Got it.

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

Advancing in a defensive war is typically winning, yes.

TokenBoomer ,

Everybody loses in war.

Kata1yst ,
@Kata1yst@kbin.social avatar

Weird, that's not the sentiment you opened this conversation with at all.

AWildMimicAppears ,
@AWildMimicAppears@kbin.social avatar

just tokenboomer things

IchNichtenLichten ,
@IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world avatar

That account is all over the place.

Poob ,

Are you just saying random shit?

TokenBoomer ,

Kinda. There are other wars, in other countries. But we are spoon fed Ukraine and China. Just countering media narratives hopefully to make people question the paradigm. Why are people homeless?

Poob ,

What the fuck does this have to do with your original comment? Stay on topic.

Perfide ,

So just useless whataboutism because people are rightfully pissed at the dictatorships of Russia and China, got it. Fuck off, tankie.

TokenBoomer ,

Well, you changed my mind with your superior arguments. I’m definitely not tankified anymore.

Yepthatsme ,

You’re definitely toking something and the replies prove it.

TokenBoomer ,

Anti war indo. It’s medicinal.

variaatio ,

You know a stale mate is a possible state of war. One side doesn’t always have to be winning and the other losing.

Spacebar , (edited )
@Spacebar@lemmy.world avatar

Artillery shells. Ukraine still has less of them than Russia. Russia out fires Ukraine by a good margin. Until Ukraine can reach at least parity, the counter offensive will be slow and painful.

Ukraine can’t and shouldn’t waste the lives of its soldiers. Russia has no problem doing so.

Western countries are ramping up the production of shells, but it takes time. Until that happens, don’t expect Ukraine to liberate its territory.

NuPNuA ,

What’s wrong with your E key?

teft ,
@teft@startrek.website avatar

Perhaps English is his second language and Ukrain is how he spells it in his native language.

NuPNuA ,

But then they use the e in the last sentence? I’m so confused.

teft ,
@teft@startrek.website avatar

Oh dang, I didn’t even see the final one. Not sure then. He has other e’s spread out through the text though so maybe just a weird affectation?

Chai ,

Autocorrect probably got confused. I use two languages and autocorrect on my phone messes up the spelling sometimes for similarly spelt words.

Samsy ,

Don’t use mixed autocorrect. Its a mess. I always simply switch before typing.

Spacebar ,
@Spacebar@lemmy.world avatar

No idea why Ukraine is somehow auto changing to Ukrain. Embarrassing.

Hank ,

Not just artillery shells, the Russians are far better equipped with anything air. The have way more and better planes and helicopters and way more AA. I'm just an armchair general but it's insane to me that Russia can't profit more from this.

Aesthesiaphilia ,

Not to mention Ukraine doesn't want to just flatten a village with artillery

TheMightyCanuck ,
@TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works avatar

Flat village with no Russians > almost flat village with Russians

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