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carl_dungeon ,

I have such mixed feelings- on one hand having the gov shut you down over bullshit is insanely dystopian. On the other, I can’t stand click bait scripted internet videos…

givesomefucks ,

insanely dystopian

In a way…

But compare that to countries where no one can hold you accountable for being an asshole. You end up with people trying to out asshole each other, in my state it’s not abnormal to hear about road rage leading to shootings in traffic.

But when you look back at the vast majority of human history, this was the type of shit most enforced:

Don’t be a lying asshole and get the whole tribe worked up because you wanted attention.

Now, if this happened because she said a government official was an asshole, or that society could be better…

That would be insanely dystopian

FMT99 ,

The big problem is that one usually leads to the other. Saying politically unpopular things in a way those governments perceive as threatening often leads to more than just administrative fines.

givesomefucks ,

…

So…

Same argument Elon musk and Joe Rogaine makes?

queermunist ,
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Actually having the government shut these leeches up is good and cool

Tangentism ,

Imagine if this was the response whether videos of people claiming 40 beheaded babies would have come into existence

PowerCrazy ,

Having an inherent risk attached to whenever you create bullshit seems perfectly fine to me. It’s not like any social media personality is accidentally doing what they are doing.

1917isnow ,
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No, people lying on social media to children to make a living is dystopian. Stop it, get some help.

carl_dungeon ,

But where do you draw the line? If I make videos of scripted bits, should I be removed from the net if I don’t put a giant disclaimer first? What about the burden of verification?

Like I said, I don’t like scripted reality or clickbait, I’m fine with that going away. Get some help!

1917isnow ,
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Acting like it’s impossible to distinguish between Infowars and Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job is not a compelling argument to me and it would never hold up in court.

carl_dungeon ,

Like I said, I kinda agree, and that’s why I’d like to see ancient aliens, pretty much all reality tv, etc taken off the air- none of it is real but is presented as such. Not to mention 85% of Fox “News”. But once you purge all of that, where is the line?

1917isnow ,
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It’s not a slippery slope, you can actually codify good definitions of “stochastic terrorism”. Of course it would be misused by a right wing government but that’s not really exclusive to censorship.

carl_dungeon ,

Yeah but was the chick in the original post committing acts of terrorism? That’s what I’m getting at. It’s stupid, but should it involve a total perma-ban? I dunno.

1917isnow , (edited )
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I actually don’t think it should be punished as terrorism. I’m sorry if that was unclear but let’s extend this concept if you can commit terrorism stochastically can’t you also commit child abuse and harm stochastically? It’s not legal to do things like tell children to eat dirt they’re too stupid it’s not fair, same principle should apply to advertising and disinformation IMO.

Default_Defect ,
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If we did that to western influencers, there’d be no western influencers.

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Chinese authorities have shut down the social media accounts of a top influencer for fabricating the viral story of a boy’s missing homework in Paris.

Sina Weibo, WeChat and Douyin accounts of Thurman Maoyibei, 29, were removed after a police investigation found that she had fabricated the story.

Ms Xu posted a video on 16 February claiming that a waiter at a coffee shop in Paris handed her two holiday workbooks that belonged to a student named Quin Lang.

Ms Xu said she made up the story due to her “light legal consciousness” and acknowledged that her actions “disrupted the internet order and resulted in massive negative influence”.

They discovered that Ms Xu and an accomplice had purchased the books with the intention of creating the viral video.

China’s Ministry of Public Security cited Ms Xu’s case as an example of its crackdown on online rumours.

The original article contains 374 words, the summary contains 146 words. Saved 61%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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Xi-sama, I kneel.

🧎

UnfortunateShort ,

I would admire the “fuck around and find out” attitude of the CCP, if the “finding out” part wouldn’t include how much organs are required to survive

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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How much is Falun Dafa paying you?

badbytes ,

Yeah, china seems like it has a great moral system to protect.

Eldritch ,

This is not defense or endorsement of China. But in the United States for instance, people have been disappeared/murdered or had their lives and careers ended. For suggesting that there should be limits on capitalism/capitalists. The country entered many wars over countries rejecting exploitative capitalism. Overthrown many democratically elected governments because they didn’t kiss the capitalists ring just right.

Don’t get Mr wrong. ML are just as bad and misguided as western capitalists. Authoritarianism is always wrong. But we need to sort our shit too. Before acting hypocritically self-righteous.

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