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Russian court fines Google for failing to store personal data on its users

A Moscow court on Tuesday fined Google for failing to store personal data on its Russian users, the latest in a series of fines on the U.S. tech giant amid tensions between the Kremlin and the West over the fighting in Ukraine.

A magistrate at Moscow’s Tagansky district court fined Google 15 million rubles (about $164,200) after the company repeatedly refused to store personal data on Russian citizens inside the country. Google was previously fined over the same charges in August 2021 and June 2022.

Google also was ordered to pay a 3 million ruble (about $32,800) fine in August for failing to delete allegedly false information about the conflict in Ukraine.

Russia can do little to collect the fine, however, as Google’s Russia business was effectively shut down last year after Moscow sent troops into Ukraine. The company has said it filed for bankruptcy in Russia after its bank account was seized by the authorities, leaving it unable to pay staff and suppliers.

cuibono ,

First time I’m hearing anyone complain about a multinational not willing to store the personal data of its users

MadBigote ,

The May store it, but Russia wants Google to store it in Russian territory.

100_percent_a_bot ,

One really has to wonder why the Russian federation - a bastion of free speech - could possibly want access to the personal data and activities of its citizens

ForgotAboutDre ,

The headlines misleading. They have to store any data they store on Russian inside Russia. Not in a foreign (to Russia) server. If they stored no data they would be okay.

This type of policy is generally good for privacy. If a company is limited to storing users data in the user’s country, that country can enforce their privacy laws.

Imagine a Chinese company that operates in the EU. GDPR provides citizens in the EU protections on how they data can be handled and the right to have it deleted. So this Chinese company can’t sell or misuse customer data without the users permission. However, if the company has no assets in the EU then EU courts have no real remedy to GDPR abuses. The Chinese company with EU citizens data in Chinese servers will tell the court to ‘jog on’. However, if the company has to use EU servers then there are assets to target and in extreme cases data to be wiped manually.

Whilst this type of law can protect users privacy when organisation are abusing data (which is the usual situation in liberal countries). It can also aid governments in abusing their citizens data. A company can’t protect their customers from the state the data is stored in very well (if the courts are complicit in the privacy invasion).

If Russia wants access to a Google’s users data their only option is a strongly worded letter, if the data is stored in the US. If the data is stored in Russia the threat of violence or imprisonment can be used.

Ghostalmedia ,
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Russia: $15…

Google: here it comes

Russia: MILLION…

Google: oof. ok, we can easily pay tha…

Russia: RUBBLES

Google: Bwahahahaha

dasgoat ,

I can throw in this wet napkin I just sneezed into if it’ll make you feel any better, Russia?

Sir_Kevin ,
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I really don’t see why Google doesn’t tell them to get fucked.

Xtallll ,
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    Sir_Kevin ,
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    I get your point. But what happens if they don’t pay the fine?

    baked_tea ,

    Nothing, as explained in the post.

    jungle ,

    You should read the whole article. It’s really not that long.

    ForgotAboutDre ,

    They did. Google in Russia is bankrupted. Due to the government seizing it’s accounts. So it has no way to pay this bill and doesn’t look to be trying to pay it.

    MonkderZweite ,

    Why do tgey bother to fine then? Actionism?

    Jaysyn ,
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    "Things that Will Never be Paid" for $400, Alex.

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    Weren’t they supposed to leave?

    agitatedpotato ,

    Google is damn near spyware. If they de-googled Russia the NSA would have to double its staff.

    5BC2E7 ,

    The article says they left when the russian government took their bank account so they had to file for bankruptcy and closed.

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    So who does Russia think it can fine? They’ve already seized the local assets.

    5BC2E7 ,

    The article talks about it:

    Russia can do little to collect the fine, however, as Google’s Russia business was effectively shut down last year after Moscow sent troops into Ukraine. The company has said it filed for bankruptcy in Russia after its bank account was seized by the authorities, leaving it unable to pay staff and suppliers

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    Right, I read it, my question is if this is purely a political stunt or the court just doesn’t realize they have no power.

    5BC2E7 ,

    Sounds like a political stunt to me but even though I’m pretty sure I am only speculating.

    alienanimals ,

    Fuck Russia

    ilickfrogs ,
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    I think there’s some irony in Google getting fined for not storing ENOUGH user data lmao

    linearchaos ,
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    At least some form of in Soviet Russia joke.

    RaoulDook ,

    Uh… Google collects user data, but in Soviet Russia user data collects Google!

    TokenBoomer ,

    Nice

    Syringe ,

    It’s a stretch, but it still plays. Nice.

    HamSwagwich ,

    They are getting fined for not storing it in Russia. They are storing it outside if Russia. So they aren’t “not storing it”… They just aren’t storing it where Russia can get at it easily.

    Magrath ,

    The article says storing the data in Russia, or it could just be articles vagueness. They probably store plenty of data, just not storing it in Russia. But who knows. This is such a nothing burger story.

    autotldr Bot ,

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    MOSCOW (AP) — A Moscow court on Tuesday fined Google for failing to store personal data on its Russian users, the latest in a series of fines on the U.S. tech giant amid tensions between the Kremlin and the West over the fighting in Ukraine.

    A magistrate at Moscow’s Tagansky district court fined Google 15 million rubles (about $164,200) after the company repeatedly refused to store personal data on Russian citizens inside the country.

    Google also was ordered to pay a 3 million ruble (about $32,800) fine in August for failing to delete allegedly false information about the conflict in Ukraine.

    The company has said it filed for bankruptcy in Russia after its bank account was seized by the authorities, leaving it unable to pay staff and suppliers.

    Since sending troops into Ukraine in February 2022, Russian authorities have taken measures to stifle any criticism of the military campaign.

    Sasha Skochilenko, an artist and musician from St. Petersburg, is on trial on charges of spreading false information about the military for replacing supermarket price tags with protest slogans.

    The original article contains 271 words, the summary contains 178 words. Saved 34%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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