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Track_Shovel ,
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Sue for peace while secretly sabotaging that effort is straight out of Putin’s playbook

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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Damn. Beginning to think we shouldn’t be selling Augusto Pinochet Saddam Hussein Slobodan Milosevic Manuel Noriega Benjamin Netanyahu all these cutting edge killing machines.

NocturnalMorning ,

We should go back to the days when the leader of the country went to war with you. That’d put a stop to shit like this real fast.

Sundial ,

“The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.”

– Thucydides

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

I mean… they are to the extent they would be.

The idea of the heroic king fighting on the frontlines is a giant load of bullshit that was (and still is) used to manipulate the masses. Even back when we were walls of spears smashing our pointing bits into each other, officers (so nobility and government) would hang back. Because you need someone who can coordinate the battle (to the limited extent they could) and sound a retreat (or flee).

Even modern day middle manager officers are pretty safe either back in the command tent or off to the side so that they can hear the radio and coordinate support.

And if even the Colonels are on the front line? Something has gone HORRIBLY wrong.

This “member when our leaders would actually fight for us” is the kind of bullshit that leads to strongman fascists… like netanyahu.

PugJesus ,

The idea of the heroic king fighting on the frontlines is a giant load of bullshit that was (and still is) used to manipulate the masses.

Not entirely bullshit. Leaders like Alexander the Great and King Richard I are noted as being constantly in the thick of the fighting. Warlords like that need to be in the fighting, exposed to danger, in order to preserve their own military credentials with their troops (who will be far less fooled by tall tales of battles they themselves were in). And that kind of warlord leadership is pretty common before the modern day.

The thing is, it’s ineffective, because it means every time you fight a battle, you risk a decapitation of your entire army or state and a succession crisis. So military institutions that last long enough pretty inevitably come to the conclusion that “At least out of javelin range” is the preferred distance for a king or general.

NocturnalMorning ,

Pretty sure it’s far more nuanced than that, how fascists get into power, but okay.

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