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Islamic State: Germany and Europe are once again a target

The attack in Solingen is just the latest example of a new wave of violence linked to the Islamic State terrorist group. Experts say the war in the Middle East is the main catalyst.

The terrorist militia Islamic State (IS) has claimed responsibility for the knife attack in Solingen. According to Amak, the mouthpiece of IS, the attack was carried out in “revenge for Muslims in Palestine and elsewhere” and targeted a “group of Christians.”

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

They stopped being a target at some point?

mods_mum ,

Common population is getting increasingly worried about negative effects of mass immigration. They are ridiculed, called racists, silenced and also arrested for speaking up. They are held hostage by their own government.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable as JFK said.

KevonLooney ,

What a weird thing to say.

Edit: lol, 1 day old account

mods_mum ,

What a bizarre take. What does the age of the account has to do with anything?

Allero ,

It’s a common indicator of people making throwaway accounts for the sake of trolling without backlash.

Sometimes genuine accounts may have strong takes, but that’s more rare. And the nickname “mods_mum” doesn’t make it any more believable.

mods_mum ,

I ran out of my chat gpt credit but before I did I managed to get a summary of normalized crime statistics for 2005, 2006 and 2007. Once I can query more I’ll add data from later years

https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/9e76b396-f905-4495-9dc2-310c093462ee.png

Here’s my ChatGPT query:

chatgpt.com/…/337e3463-e232-4bd7-bf08-1d8ed799774…

atro_city ,

Oh no... people are starting to trust "AI" to provide them accurate information without verifying it.

"But but but, ChatGPT said it, so it must be right!"

mods_mum ,

ChatGPT doesn’t make up data out of thin air. All crime statistics used are from the BKA. Here’s the rest of stats normalized by the population size

https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/e54cf1ea-c004-4925-b1e3-2021c0c36053.png

Allero , (edited )

Numbers don’t even seem to add up, or something strongly changed between 2007 and 2010.

Also, you’re either a troll or a very incompetent researcher. You should absolutely never ever rely on LLMs to serve you any factual data. LLMs are highly prone to hallucinations.

Here’s an actual paper on the issue: www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0167268123001713

Generally, the migrant crime rate increased in 2008-2014, but then decreased throughout 2015-2019. In total, the change averages to about zero.

As per reasoning, two primary forces are demonstrated: on one hand, poorer material conditions, and on the other, the fear of being deported. In 2015-2019, during refugee crisis, being sent back could mean essential death sentence, which shifted the balance. All of this is to say that we should improve material conditions for migrants if we want the crime rates among them to drop further. Instead, it is currently done under threats of deportation.

The only thing left unanswered for me is sexual violence. But in Germany, the difference between natives and locals is not as big as to justify mass measures against an entirety of migrant population.

mods_mum ,

Uk, then just read this. It’s straight from BKA

bka.de/…/KriminalitaetImKontextVonZuwanderung_202…

mods_mum ,

lol getting down-voted for pointing directly to BKA’s report. The cope intensifies

atro_city ,

Maybe you should've read it too...

First page:

7.4% of all registered suspects were immigrants (2021: 7.1%)

4.9% of all registered victims were immigrants (2021: 5.2%)

The number of refugees had also barely risen between 2016 (1.5M at end of refugee "crisis") and 2021 (1.7M), but jumped to 2.8M with 1M coming from Ukraine.

Additionally, the document isn't good as it keeps mixing up "immigrants" and "refugees", so you never know if it's talking about some dude from Spain or a dude from Syria.

Page 38: (can't link to image for some reason with fedia)

I'm also guessing TVZ means something like immigrant or refugee or something?

Solved crime cases against life (murder?)

| year | total | including at least on TVZ |
| 2018 | 3007 | 430 (14,3%) |
| 2019 | 2751 | 357 (13,0%) |
| 2020 | 2947 | 370 (12,6%) |
| 2021 | 2635 | 366 (13,9%) |
| 2022 | 2732 | 332 (12,2%) |

The number of crimes (and those committed by "TVZ") is dropping despite the number of immigrants/refugees increasing.

Dude, stop using ChatGPT and actually a document by yourself once in a while.

idiomaddict ,

As an immigrant in Germany, people who don’t support immigrants are not cowed by their government, don’t worry. They love to tell me about it. Maybe if you were an immigrant for a day, you would see things differently as well.

mods_mum ,
  1. I am an immigrant, I left my home country over ten years ago
  2. telegraph.co.uk/…/german-woman-given-harsher-sent…The cope is strong
idiomaddict ,

Well, Herr Sellner, perhaps your perspective is slanted. Somehow people still make their opinions heard.

mods_mum ,

Maybe you should get out some time

Let’s focus on data primarily available from Germany’s Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) and other official sources.

  1. Homicides and Attempted Homicides by Immigrants

    2016: According to BKA data, immigrants were suspects in 285 cases of homicide or attempted homicide. This was during a peak year for refugee arrivals. 2017: Immigrants were suspects in 298 cases of homicide or attempted homicide. 2018: The number dropped to 230 cases. 2019: There were 256 cases where immigrants were suspects. 2020: The number was approximately 220 cases.

  2. Sexual Offenses

    2016: Immigrants were suspects in approximately 3,400 cases of sexual offenses. 2017: This number increased to around 3,600 cases. 2018: The number remained relatively stable, with about 3,400 cases reported. 2019: There were 3,500 cases. 2020: Around 3,000 cases involved immigrant suspects.

Allero ,

I’mma be honest, I didn’t dig statistics for Germany, but I live in Russia where the same migrant hysteria is rampant rn, and saw some numbers from there.

On average, immigrants in Russia commit less crimes per person than native population. The areas in which there are objectively more crimes are migration laws (obviously) and sexual offences. Numbers in other categories are higher by native Russians. And mind you, our migrants come from underdeveloped primarily Muslim countries, too.

With that said, do you have data on the share of crimes committed by native German population and immigrants? Pure numbers mean little without context.

idiomaddict ,

Immigrants are over 15% of the population, of course they commit crimes. 8% of rapes are reported, wanna bet whether they’re more frequently reported when they’re committed by immigrants?

atro_city ,

Cites sources, doesn't link them.

Also, does being a suspect mean they are guilty? All somebody has to do is scream rape, point and a non-white, and they are guilty of rape?

mods_mum ,

As stated previously the source of data is BKA. Here’s an example for 2022 that shows exactly what the GPT summary did.

bka.de/…/KriminalitaetImKontextVonZuwanderung_202…

einkorn ,
@einkorn@feddit.org avatar

I am not sure what you are trying to tell with these numbers except to stir some hatred.

To make any sort of sense from these numbers, you have a) to define what an immigrant is (hint, the BKA definition is very loose) and b) compare them to the overall cases of the listed offenses.

DMBFFF ,
@DMBFFF@lemmy.world avatar

Apparently the disgraceful rapist pig was a minor when he did it, and she was jailed for a weekend.

mods_mum ,

Are you defending a rapist because he was young? Seriously?

DMBFFF ,
@DMBFFF@lemmy.world avatar

Judge jails 1 of 9 men in Germany gang rape of teen girl

torontosun.com/…/judge-jails-1-of-9-men-in-german…

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The others convicted of rape — filmed twice during separate assaults — received suspended sentences of one to two years. Four were identified as German, while the others have Armenian, Afghan, Kuwaiti and Montenegrin citizenship, reports said.

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A 10th defendant was found not guilty, while another accused who faced charges for aiding and abetting and filming the rape, was acquitted in April.

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The judge’s sentences are not considered the final ruling.

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Due to the ages of the defendants at the time — between 17 and 21 — the trial was conducted by the youth chamber of Hamburg’s court. Sentencing is determined by each defendant’s educational needs, according to German criminal law.

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According to prosecutors, the girl attended a party on the festival grounds of the park on Sept. 19, 2020. While drunk, the teen was led by four men to a bushy area and abused.

a lot of drunk women were/are raped by nominally Christian native-born.

The judge called the proceedings “a mammoth circumstantial trial in which it was not clear for a long time what had happened on the night of September 19th to 20th, 2020,” according to a translation of a report by Germany’s Spiegel.

…

Some called for the judge to be a rape victim herself, while the criticisms were “marked by an anti-immigrant undertone,” the group added.

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and this was almost 4 years ago and occurred in a country of 82 million.

atro_city ,

Ah, because of Palestine. It's just an excuse, but supporting Israel in their genocide really isn't a good look either way.

tilefan ,

I know we made a big show about leaving afghanistan, but I haven’t heard about Iraq in ages. are we still fighting over there?

Drusas ,

The US still has a small presence there, but largely no.

DMBFFF ,
@DMBFFF@lemmy.world avatar

Islamic State has probably murdered over 20 000 innocent Arabs civilians.

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