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‘Frightening’ Taliban law bans women from speaking in public

New Taliban laws that prohibit women from speaking or showing their faces outside their homes have been condemned by the UN and met with horror by human rights groups.

The Taliban published a host of new “vice and virtue” laws last week, approved by their supreme leader Hibatullah Akhundzada, which state that women must completely veil their bodies – including their faces – in thick clothing at all times in public to avoid leading men into temptation and vice.

Women’s voices are also deemed to be potential instruments of vice and so will not be allowed to be heard in public under the new restrictions. Women must also not be heard singing or reading aloud, even from inside their houses.

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Maggoty ,

Putting MBFC’s rating of itself at the top just makes it look like everything is the least biased, most credible, source.

goferking0 ,

Why is that line even there? Of course the site is going to say itself is good.

catloaf ,

OP linked to it.

goferking0 ,

No the bots putting the mbfc self check at top of posts linked publication

catloaf ,

Yes. Because OP linked to it.

goferking0 ,

So the bot thinks comments are higher priority or mbfc is always on top. Great :/

garpujol ,

😘

OneWorldPeace ,

Free free Palestine

empireOfLove2 ,
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U lost bro?

TrashWizard ,

If I had to guess, they’re probably trying to argue, through some very convoluted logic, that muslims aren’t real people and therefore no amount of dead Palestinians can be bad

empireOfLove2 ,
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That’s a lot more thought than I put into interpreting their 3 word comment lol.

Reverendender ,

Their thinking is so backwards and cognitively dissonant it is maddening. I wish the women could successfully rise up and overthrow these shitstain people that call themselves “men.”

Maggoty ,

Unfortunately quite a few of the women support it. The truth is there were enough supporters of democracy and sharia to make either work. The elite prefer sharia though because it offers more control and aligns with tribal structures better.

cygnus ,
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Wow I can’t believe these Taliban folks are so misogynistic. I for one am totally blindsided by this.

UncleGrandPa ,

Coming soon to a US State near you!

AmidFuror ,

Women's rights won't be properly protected in the US unless we put a pussy grabber back in the White House instead of... (checks notes)... a woman.

WeeSheep ,

Cool cool. Ferengi have infiltrated earth.

cygnus ,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

Ferengi prefer their feeeemales completely nude, thankyouverymuch.

mods_mum ,

Well, all Abrahamic religions oppress women but Islam wins by a long shot. It needs reformation and badly.

phdepressed ,

Their are many more moderate sects of Islam, they just didn’t get all the US and Saudi $$$$ to spread their beliefs.

JackGreenEarth ,

Why would it need reformation? It just needs to be abolished, making part of it better just lends false legitimacy to the whole.

Eiri ,

Not sure how right or wrong that is when taking into account the more moderate sections of it, but in this particular case, as the article says, it’s not really about Islam. The holy texts don’t really call for any of this.

mods_mum ,

I’m not an anthropologist or a religion expert but you don’t have to be one to notice that the most oppressive cultures towards women or gay people have one common denominator. Islam. Honour killings, marrying underage girls, do I need to keep going?

Doorbook ,

well maybe you need to educate your self before accusing a bout 1.8 billion people of something less than 100,000 do.

mods_mum ,

Burn their holy book and see what happens. Burn a bible and compare. You’re either arguing in bad faith or very naive, and I’m being extremely generous here. Good luck with this level of cognition

Fedizen ,

Are you saying this is just toxic masculinity and militias run amok?

Eiri ,

My understanding of Afghanistan’s complex situation isn’t sufficient to confirm or deny, sorry.

Doorbook ,

1.8 billion muslims in about 57 countries around the world oppress women and need reform according to OP. In addition, op also claim that another 2.8 billion christian also oppress women but not as bad.

Statically speaking to determine if something a problem among 46000 millions people you need at least 1% of such population doing something, that is about 460 million people. Taliban government is about 200,000 people which is less than 0.001%

mods_mum ,

U ok buddy?

Blue_Morpho ,

And they want tourists!

www.cnn.com/travel/…/index.html

Trust us, we won’t chop your head off this time!

poopiddy ,

good thing i have two heads

thejml ,

Taliban men must be the weakest in the world if they can’t even hear a woman’s voice without being shoved into temptation. Do they all just instantly nut when a wrist bone slides out from the veil?! Talk about not having any confidence in themselves.

Reverendender ,

I understand temptation. You just have to, you know, resist. It’s called being a mature adult, or something along those lines.

postmateDumbass ,

They should tie one guy to a pole then blind and deaf the rest of themselves.

catloaf ,

They’re no different from men anywhere else. It’s only a justification for control.

AidsKitty ,

This is the system those people fight to maintain. So grateful I wasn’t born there.

cyborganism ,

When the US left it really didn’t take long, nor a lot of effort for the Taliban to take back control.

AidsKitty ,

America trained their military for 20yrs and gave them billions in military equipment to be able to fight for themselves. They literally laid down and surrendered after a couple weeks.

thebestaquaman ,

I think it’s horrible to see what the Taliban government is doing to oppress the people of Afghanistan. I’m also surprised that so few people of Afghanistan showed any real will to prevent Taliban from taking power. They had 20 years to prepare, with ample support and loads of equipment from NATO and others, and when the foreign forces left they just … capitulated.

It’s baffling to me that seemingly nobody was willing to fight to prevent this. Thousands of people were at the airport during the last evacuations, and I vividly remember videos of people holding on to cargo planes that were taking off in an effort to get out of the country. Lots of people clearly knew it was going to get bad, but seemingly nobody was willing to fight to prevent it. I honestly have a hard time understanding how that happened.

SupraMario ,

That’s because we knew the majority of them where just Taliban fighters that needed a job. So when we left, we basically left a bunch of gear to the Taliban fighters we just trained.

catloaf ,

That’s the thing, though, they don’t fight for it. They don’t really fight against it, either.

Maggoty ,

Please don’t link MBFC. It is itself biased and inconsistent.

For example the Guardian has the same credibility rating as Breitbart. With far fewer failed fact checks.

breakfastmtn OP ,
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You’re wrong. Request denied!

Have a good one though.

floofloof ,

They’re not agreeing that The Guardian and Breitbart are on a level. They’re complaining that MBFC ranks them the same when Breitbart is clearly a much more biased and less reliable source.

breakfastmtn OP ,
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They’re wrong that they rate the Guardian and Breitbart the same. First of all, they don’t have the same credibility rating. You also have to ignore the reports to reach that conclusion. Breitbart is a “Questionable Source.”

A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for profit or influence. Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact-checked on a per-article basis. Sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the reasoning section for that source.

Reasoning: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy, Failed Fact Checks

The Guardian are not listed as a Questionable Source. They’ve linked to sources that have failed fact checks and failed numerous fact checks (mostly in Op-Ed), though 4 have recently dropped off the list in the last month or so (I think). Their fact-checking seems to have improved. They say this about them:

The Guardian holds a left-leaning editorial bias and sometimes relies on sources that have failed fact checks. Further, while The Guardian has failed several fact checks, they also produce an incredible amount of content; therefore, most stories are accurate, but the reader must beware, and hence why we assign them a Mixed rating for factual reporting.

‘Be aware that they publish an avalanche of great news but have failed a few fact checks’ is not nearly the same thing as ‘Questionable source that publishes propaganda and conspiracy theories! You must fact-check each article individually because they’re so unreliable.’ There’s no way you could read those pages and conclude those sources are the same. They say that Breitbart is clearly a much more biased and less reliable source (to borrow a phrase).

socsa ,

That's just the multipolar world kicking in

cyborganism ,
  • women: * exist

-men: “QUIT MAKING US HORNY YOU HARLOTS!”

Eiri ,

“This document not only violates Afghanistan’s domestic laws but also broadly contravenes all 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.”

They didn’t think it could be done, but I knew I could do it. All 30 articles in one law!

— A Taliban, probably

garpujol ,

Grande Americano please.

STRAIGHT TO JAIL!!!

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