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Xenny ,

What does capitalism do when there is nothing left to take? It keeps taking

WhatAmLemmy ,

We’re gonna find out as soon as AI, automation, and robotics are more cost efficient at performing most functions than humans.

My expectation is genocide/mass murder, as there are somewhere between 10-100x more people than the planets resources can sustain long term, at a developed world rate of consumption and the current level of technological efficiency/advancement.

Dioxid3 ,

Okay but how does AI/Automation/etc. cause a mass murder if the preoccupying assumption of automation is, quite literally, increase of technological efficiency and advancement?

veganpizza69 ,
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It goes keto and eats itself.

TheBigBrother , (edited )

Far-left and far-right regimes are just a cycle, society just goes from right to left and vice versa gradually, bad times make strong men and good times make weak men. That’s it.

Edit: The key is to be the strong man in any time.

queermunist ,
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🤡

TheBigBrother , (edited )

Research about human history and you will know what I’m talking about, the same phenomenon it’s seen in all the human history, it is just now it’s at global scale but it will be the same when humans get into the space, far-left and far-right will keep fighting each other for resources and power.

Edit: There is no transcendence until you are a cold dead ass, until then you will need to pick a side, if you are smart enough you will pick the side of the winners.

TheMightyCanuck ,
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Thanks Reagan https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/7b37b2a4-8d19-49f0-b531-f1fc4b0607c1.jpeg

EmpireInDecay ,

*Milton Friedman

And every president since Reagan, including him.

Sam_Bass ,

Bullshit. Fascists have been around for millenia longer than our peaceful mindsets. Back then it was more useful to be but recent advances in technology has made their usefulness nothing more than a nostalgic yearning for past and passed glories

ulkesh ,
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Thing is…there is no real free market with proper competition, anyway. If there was such a thing, my groceries wouldn’t cost double now from what they were a mere five years ago (or quadruple, if looking at soda like Coke and Pepsi products). There is rampant collusion and price-fixing going on and not a damn government official seems to be doing anything about it. And yeah, the “but but the pandemic” excuse runs pretty thin as the years of this gouging continues.

queermunist ,
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The truth is, a real market is never actually truly competitive. In an unregulated market, competing firms always collude with each other to set prices and wages for the industry. “Free market” ideology is based on nonsense, they’ve proven this over and over.

expatriado ,

if you want to implement unpopular policies, authoritarian regime is the way

floofloof ,

The depressing thing is that fascists are popular enough to gain power. The populist pose, some scapegoating of minorities, and a dash of lying about their goals, is enough to win over many voters, and in a first-past-the-post system it doesn’t matter if the majority of the people don’t like them.

MonsterMonster ,

Pretty much sums up the UK since 2010.

queermunist ,
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The market is authoritarian.

Rookwood ,

The reason capitalism leads to fascism is that inevitably capitalism will lead to untenable inequality. Injustice will be too great to ignore between the rich and the rest. This will lead to populism.

There are two forms of populism. One will seek to rectify the imbalances caused by capitalism. The other will seek to divert blame to minorities. If there were less blacks, immigrants, gays, Jews, etc. etc. then our society would not be in decay. One is much more useful to the Capitalist and so it will ultimately prevail. The capitalist will devote all resources to crushing the leftist populism up to and including directly funding fascism.

ToastedPlanet ,

One is much more useful to the Capitalist and so it will ultimately prevail. The capitalist will devote all resources to crushing the leftist populism up to and including directly funding fascism.

Unless. We have to spread these ideas to as many people as possible. We can’t afford to call it early.

njm1314 ,

Well of course it has, fascism is the end result of capitalism. Some would say it’s natural conclusion.

BlackLaZoR ,
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fascism is the end result of capitalism

I wonder what sort of echo chamber you must live in, in order to believe this

Madrigal ,

The real world.

BlackLaZoR ,
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lemmy.ml isn't the real world

aodhsishaj ,

Late stage capitalism?

TheDemonBuer ,
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A lot of economists don’t listen to anything Joseph Stiglitz says, because he’s not from the Chicago school. Economics is so stupid.

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