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TokenBoomer ,

đŸ‡ș🇳 The UN has a right to defend itself.

Streamwave OP ,

(The UN does not, in fact, have a ‘right to defend itself’, nor to slaughter Jews in brutal pogroms, nor to teach generations of children that the greatest thing they can do with their lives is detonate a suicide vest in a crowd of Jewish civilians using the money of the international community)

TokenBoomer ,
Streamwave OP ,

Have you read the article?

You mean the plan accepted by the Jews and rejected by the Arabs, right before they launched a war which in the words of Haj Amin al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and close friend of Adolf Hitler, they would “continue fighting until the Zionists were annihilated” and, in the words of one of the most senior leaders of Jerusalem, Jamal al-Husayni, that “the blood will flow like rivers in the Middle East”?

That’s the war you’re referring to re: “The UN’s right to defend itself”?

Because of course, it could have done at the time, and defended itself against the side that rejected the UN plan: the Arabs. And it didn’t.

So what’s your point here, if not spreading Jew-hatred?

TokenBoomer ,

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  • Streamwave OP ,

    Ah, okay. So you made a laughable claim, I corrected you on it, and you’ve pivoted into personal insults.

    Great. That sounds about right for the antisemitic left. Par for the course.

    Free Palestine from the Jihadis so that the normal people of Palestine can have a state of their own side-by-side with Israel.

    EDIT: I don’t know why I bothered. You’re just about to call me a ‘Zionist’ and make some bullshit claims and then run off as if you scored a victory.

    TokenBoomer ,

    You are new here. Do a search 🔍 Read the room. This topic has been discussed ad nauseam for the past 8 months, you’re late to the party.

    FreePalestine

    Streamwave OP ,

    I’m not new here, I’m just not a coward who forms their opinions based on groupthink and the hysteria of antisemitism, which does not discriminate on left or right biases.

    Glad you proved me right though. Reaffirmed how little I think of the pro-Hamas rabble/tribe.

    Sami ,
    @Sami@lemmy.zip avatar

    How do you feel about the rising islamophobia culminating in riots in the UK?

    Streamwave OP ,

    Not much. British Muslims spent the last 10 months attacking British Jews and calling for a genocide of the Jewish people in Israel, burning Union Jacks, calling for ‘death to the West’, and so on and so on.

    I’m not saying they should be subject to similar attacks themselves, but I’m not going to march in their defence.

    They could have done that after October 7th, and they chose to celebrate the death of Jews. So I’m simply not going to march with them at all. Let’s see what happens.

    Sami ,
    @Sami@lemmy.zip avatar

    Got it. Sorry to tell you but if this were the 1930s you would be siding with the Germans. That’s why no one here engages with bigots like yourself.

    Streamwave OP ,

    Ah. Okay, so you, currently attacking the Jews, are convinced that in 1930s Germany you would have in fact been defending the Jews?

    Interesting. Bold. Avant-garde, even.

    TokenBoomer ,

    You do realize there is a difference between Zionism and Judaism? Right?

    TokenBoomer ,

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  • CanadaPlus , (edited )

    Cool. Now what proportion of Israeli NGO workers were somehow, someway involved in the various atrocities that came next?

    Streamwave OP ,
    CanadaPlus ,

    That makes us even then.

    daniyeg ,

    from the article:

    Israel stepped up its accusations in March, saying over 450 UNRWA staff were military operatives in Gaza terrorist groups. UNRWA employs 32,000 people across its area of operations, 13,000 of them in Gaza.

    so according to the UN israel was off by a factor of 50, which would make UNRWA 9/13000 = 0.07% of a terrorist organization. since you seem like a zionist, if this is somehow gonna convince me to support israel’s bullshit claims about aid workers in gaza, lmao. lol even.

    Streamwave OP ,

    Per the article, they didn’t investigate all 350, the UN only investigated 19. Not really interested in that argument, though.

    What do you mean when you say ‘Zionist’ about me? Specifically, what do you mean by that word?

    daniyeg ,

    they did a investigation which discovered findings related to 19 people, one of whom was dismissed and the other 9 were deemed insufficient. it doesn’t mean they only investigated 19 people and found 9, it means out of all the allegations only 19 could even be reasonably investigated, and they decided to terminate 9 people.

    and by Zionist i meant a supporter of state of Israel (which you seem highly engaged in covering for them) regardless of ideology and politics. this is the most common use of the word by self identified (most of whom are evangelical christians and are zionists for very anti-semetic reasons) and the general public. stop baiting people into the gotcha “anti-semetic” debate bullshit you disingenuous fuck.

    I won’t respond to anything you say because new account posting lie after lie doesn’t seem genuine, so go nuts in the replies.

    Streamwave OP ,

    Oh god. I knew it would be this sort of low-IQ shit when I saw your @lemmy.ml address.

    they did a investigation which discovered findings related to 19 people, one of whom was dismissed and the other 9 were deemed insufficient. it doesn’t mean they only investigated 19 people and found 9, it means out of all the allegations only 19 could even be reasonably investigated, and they decided to terminate 9 people.

    They investigated 19 people and found 12 of them were so highly plausibly involved in the October 7th Holocaust, even by the UN’s ridiculous standards which always try to absolve themselves, that they have already fired them. That’s it. They’re already fired by the UN because of the evidence they uncovered. They’ve already been fired for it.

    and by Zionist i meant a supporter of state of Israel (which you seem highly engaged in covering for them) regardless of ideology and politics

    OK, so the idea here appears to be that Israel is unique among all the nations of the world in that it only has a right to exist insofar as one can individually and subjectively support their government. Have I misread this?

    this is the most common use of the word by self identified (most of whom are evangelical christians and are zionists for very anti-semetic reasons) and the general public

    This isn’t true, you just watched it on a YouTube video.

    Here’s an example: I’m a Zionist because I believe the Jewish people have a right to national self-determination in their ethnic and religious homeland.

    Anti-Zionists therefore presumably believe that the Jews have no such right, and therefore their state – uniquely among all the states on the planet, from the United States to Australia – must be destroyed and abolished.

    Which bit of that is ‘incorrect’ in your view, assuming you’re willing/able to activate some element of your prefrontal cortex in responding?

    stop baiting people into the gotcha “anti-semetic” debate bullshit you disingenuous fuck.

    I haven’t baited anything. I wanted to know what you meant when you labelled me as a “Zionist”, in your own word(s).

    Nothing you’ve said has convinced me that you wouldn’t have been piling up ‘Pro-Zionist’ books on the bonfires of Berlin in 1939.

    Streamwave OP ,

    What do you think ‘Zionist’ means?

    psvrh ,
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    Both sides!!!

    /s

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