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friend_of_satan ,

And for what? Is this at all good for humanity? For the Russian people? Fuck war, fuck Putin.

nevemsenki ,

It’s for conquering Crime a and parts od Ukraine. And as long as they get to keep the land, Putin will be satisfied… and the average russian will trust the propaganda they should be satisfied as well.

friend_of_satan ,

I don’t understand how that morally justifies half a million unnecessary deaths.

radivojevic ,

To distract people from the reality that the ruling class is ramping up their efforts to gain authoritarian control in a significantly large number of countries lately.

SeaJ ,

I mean it is still technically up several million people overall. But then again, over a million people left the country…

friend_of_satan ,

Are you implying that just because the population went up it’s not a tragedy that over half a million people have died for no good reason?

SeaJ ,

Not in the least. The person asked “for what?” About the only positive I could see from a Russian government perspective is an increased population.

CosmoNova ,

That‘s more than Napoleon lost in Russia in one of history‘s most remarkable military blunders. So the Russians can‘t even look back at that fondly anymore. It‘s truly insane.

radivojevic ,

arguably, Napoleon wasn’t just trying to distract people and empty prisons.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

How many days did Putin say they would be in Kyiv by again?

cygnus ,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s only day 882 of 3, Russia will win anytime, silly westoid!

lemmytellyousomething , (edited )

I heard, they recently conquered a village*.

/* village totally destroyed, more than 100 own people died, the area of the largest country of the planet grew by 0.0001%

crawancon ,

this will never make it to any hexabear subscriber. they’ll just say fake news and shove their sickles up their ass.

Lost_My_Mind ,

See…this is what confuses me about Lemmy.

When TV was a new concept, there was no internet, so they had TV Guide. It was your guide to knowing what was happening, at what time.

On Lemmy, we need an Instance Guide. To be able to have a wiki that explains what each instance’s personality is.

Blizzard ,

Hexbear.net & lemmygrad.ml - communist wackos. Block for your own sanity because sometimes you first read the comment before checking who wrote it.

fuckingkangaroos ,

Communism is just a facade for them to cover up their authoritarian propaganda from the Kremlin and CCP.

crawancon ,

How do you block instances that show up in the all feed? I’m doing this wrong.

I’m using the eternity client.

Blizzard ,

I don’t know that app, I’m using Sync. But you can do it even via the website. Click your avatar > settings > blocks tab.

radivojevic ,

I call them armchair communists. Or, a more insulting term that only a real communist would pick up on, parlor pink.

SeaJ ,

I do love that they all claim to hate Putin and the Russian state but only accept sources that paint it in a good light. The AP is apparently biased to them but substacks and Sputnik News are all legit.

alcoholicorn ,

It’s about understanding the bias; if a US news source admits to something that reflects negatively on the US, we can assume it’s at least that bad. Same with a Russian source about Russia.

When an American source runs a story that makes Russia look bad, it’s not very credible. Same with Russian sources on America.

In both cases, the actual narrative the article uses its facts to paint should typically be disregarded; the atomic unit of propaganda being emphasis and all.

SeaJ ,

Except that does not happen. Russian sources that make Russia look good and Ukraine look bad are accepted while the opposite is never the case.

alcoholicorn ,

Could it be a sampling bias?

Most communists aren’t going to be too critical of Russia in a discussion with western liberals about Russia’s issues because those liberals only understand those criticisms as “russia bad, therefore imperialism good”. Same with discussing LGBT+ rights in Palestine or Iran without a bunch of context.

SeaJ ,

Generalize much? No, most of the liberal leaning folk in the discussions did not view imperialism as good and were happy just as happy to be critical of US and EU imperialism as much as they were of Russia’s and China’s.

alcoholicorn ,

So here we’re using different definitions of liberalism.

Here’s a book on what liberalism has meant over the last 300 years. It’s only 344 pages and one of my favorites.

theacharnian ,
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Estimates vary, and that’s the ceiling, given by the Ukrainians. The US estimates about half of that, the BBC estimates about a fifth of that. Source: en.wikipedia.org/…/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrain…

Still a staggering number of people whose lives were wasted for Putin’s vanity.

Womble ,

The BBC number cited in that article is for 100k deaths not casualties, which for 4:1 injured to killed ratio would tally with the Ukrainian number.

Serpente ,
@Serpente@lemmy.world avatar

Fake news

qxffdv33ve ,

Who is so retarded to believe this? Considering total allies casualties were 900k only by allies on ww2 western front? Hahah

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