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shalafi ,

If we drop all political considerations, indiscriminately fucking with international trade routes is sure to get your ass kicked. Right or wrong don’t matter. Call it terrorism or piracy or whatever you like, it ain’t gonna fly.

eskimofry ,

Except you can’t drop all political considerations and you sure as hell can’t call this trade route debacle indiscriminate fucking. They specifically attacked this route because they suspect it supplies israel too.

TropicalDingdong ,

I mean who is gonna stop him?

This started meaningfully under Bush, Obama made it worse.

Hard to put the words out of the mouth but Trump was actually pretty restrained.

What happens what Cheeto gets the hot seat again?

Good intelligence squared on the topic here.

PugJesus ,
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I mean who is gonna stop him?

From retributive action against terrorists performing unprovoked attacks against civilian ships of numerous countries in international waters?

No one, probably?

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

I hate when people say things like this like genocide is apparently not enough provocation.

PugJesus ,
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Yeah, I'm sure those non-Israeli civilian ships not even heading to Israel are really provoking the Houthis with their genocidal actions.

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

Do you understand the idea of a blockadde?

PugJesus ,
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Yes. Do you understand the idea of a 'neutral nation' or 'international waters'?

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

Yemen explicitly rejected neutrality. That's well within their rights when a genocide is happening at their doorstep.

PugJesus ,
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You do understand that these ships being attacked are ships of neutral nations, right?

You do understand that... right?

And that the attacks aren't happening in Yemeni territorial waters or Israeli territorial waters, but in international waters.

You realize that... right?

... right...?

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

They're ships that are going to dock in Israel.

PugJesus ,
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They're literally not, though. The Houthis have been indiscriminately attacking ships passing through the area, which is largely used for passage through the Suez Canal - the only alternative being making a trip all the way around Africa.

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

They... Are? They're attacking ships that are either Israeli-owned, flying the Israeli flag or are going to dock at Israel. And it's working.

PugJesus ,
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The Houthis are indiscriminately attacking ships that are not Israeli-owned, flying the Israeli flag, or going to dock at Israel. Of the ships attacked, only a small minority have any connection to Israel at all. So you're just choosing to ignore reality. Okay. Good talk.

splicerslicer ,

This is exceptionally easy to disprove with a five second Google search. Some of the container ships that were most recently attacked had panama and Japan flags. Please learn to think and read before spouting nonsense. What the houthi are doing is indiscernible from piracy

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

So I'm looking up that attack but can't find it. Got a link?

GBU_28 ,

You should probably stick to your user name

GBU_28 ,

In international waters? Better have a strong navy

GBU_28 ,

2 wrongs don’t make a right. Uninvolved civilians just working a shift don’t deserve to die

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

And they didn't.

TropicalDingdong ,

There’s a broader point here that everyone seems to be missing, which is that the role of president didn’t have the authority to do things like this historically. It’s not about it being R or D, or if it’s moral and justified ‘this time’. It’s that we’ve ceded a power to the executive which should be in the legislative branch.

I would really ask you to listen/ watch the debate I posted.

Syntha ,

Was he?

The Trump administration has carried out 176 strikes in Yemen in just two years, compared with 154 there during all eight years of Obama’s tenure, according to a count by The Associated Press and the Bureau of Investigative Journalism.

…suntimes.com/…/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-…

fastandcurious ,
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People can cry all they want, but it’s the US who gave the excuse to Houthi, I think they should first stop their genocide before accusing others of terrorism, leave that to more respectful countries

GBU_28 ,

Did trump strike Yemen or not?

Rapidcreek OP ,

Guess they should have stopped firing missles at our ships.

nekandro ,

lemmy.world once again demonstrating why it should be called lemmy.us

GBU_28 ,

And .ml gonna ml.

Don’t shoot at civilians. That goes for everyone.

nekandro ,

A blockade of a state you are at war with is… acceptable under international law.

Unfortunately for you, international law supercedes your own interpretation of morality.

pineapple_pizza ,

Was the blockade officially declared? I couldn’t find a source

cecinestpasunbot ,
eskimofry ,

Guess America should stop arming israel and condemn them for their genocide.

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