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Israeli strikes kill UN staff, more than 70 of his extended family in Gaza

Issam Al Mughrabi, 56, who worked for the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) for three decades was killed along with his wife and children in an Israeli air strike on Friday.

“For almost 30 years, Issam has worked with UNDP through our Programme of Assistance to the Palestinian People,” UNDP administrator Achim Steiner said in a statement.

“The loss of Issam and his family has deeply affected us all. The UN and civilians in Gaza are not a target.”

Offering his condolences to Issam’s family and colleagues the World Health Organization’s chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus stressed in a post on X that “humanitarians should never be victims” and called for a ceasefire.

crackajack ,

Israel’s done for now! They will get stern words and hard finger wagging from the UN!

sirboozebum ,

But Anthony Blinken said the United States has done more than any country to stop the killing of civilians in Gaza by providing unlimited quantities of bombs to kill civilians in Gaza.

TheBat ,
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I’m half asleep and I read that as finger wanking. Was very confuse for a second.

doctorcrimson ,

I hope Germany and the UK are the first to come forward and try to stop this atrocity but I have no such expectations.

sirboozebum ,

The UK is still reminiscing about the glory days of empire when it was exporting food from their colonies while millions of Indians and Irish starved to death or fighting a war to get Chinese people addicted to opium.

doctorcrimson ,

A war started by selling opium to China after China had banned opium due to an epidemic caused by years of being sold opium by the British.

nexusband ,
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Germany is too wound up in internal stupidity contests right now. I wouldn’t be surprised if after January 2nd everything is grinding to a halt because of farmers and the new laws…

Aceticon ,

The UK were offering to send surveillance planes to help Israel with targetting in Gaza.

As for Germany the very day the UN announced Israel had already killed over 4000 children in Gaza, herr Sholz reafirmed his unwavering support of Israel.

Those two are some of the worst, only beaten in their love for these Fascists by the US.

The ones to be proud of in Europe when it comes to their reaction to this massacre are the Republic of Ireland and Spain.

AutistoMephisto ,
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I wonder what Hitler would have to say about Israel, if he could see it now? He’d probably tell them they’re doing it wrong, as if there’s a right way to genocide.

doctorcrimson ,

Hitler would be happy about a Jewish Ethnostate to segregate them to, in general, but yeah there’s no telling how he would react to their actions unless he could somehow grift something from the whole situation.

doctorcrimson ,

The supporters of Israel have the most power to stop this, though.

nekandro ,

For what it’s worth Al Jazeera is literally a mouthpiece funded by the Qatari government. They’re like the VOA/Radio Free XXX/Xinhua/RT of Qatar. It’s literally Qatari propaganda.

mildlyusedbrain ,

Cool media is often a tool of propaganda. Can you showcase that this is false? Can you state why you brought it up here? Would you do the same for Israeli propaganda justifying genocide?

Here’s a more direct source: undp.org/…/statement-killing-undp-staff-member-an…

nekandro ,

According to this community’s guidelines, Al Jazeera isn’t really an acceptable source: mediabiasfactcheck.com/al-jazeera/

I don’t agree, but that’s why I’m on lemmy.ml rather than here most of the time.

nutsack ,

you’re replying to him providing an alternative source with this?

doctorcrimson ,

I think it’s a good response to the unnecessary aggression of the comment above it. We can talk about proper sources and improper sources without disagreeing with the contents of the article.

mildlyusedbrain ,

I’m still curious why the comment then though. Without any further context it only seems to serve to imply the story is false.

nekandro ,

no meta posts allowed

mildlyusedbrain ,

Not sure what that means in this context but from scanning your history, you don’t seem disingenuous so gonna chalk it up misunderstanding haha

GiveMemes ,

It means that he can’t make a discussion post about the sub’s rules and is confined to semi-relevant comment sections

nekandro ,

thanks buddy I should’ve been more clear

snek ,
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I’ve suggested to the mods a meta thread to discuss MBFC. The more I read about it, the more I’m convinced it’s not a good tool whatsoever.

nekandro ,

It’s really not but the mods seem obsessed with it.

TokenBoomer ,

I get it. We gotta have guidelines or we get Daily Wire and The Blaze posted. But when The NY Times and Wash. Post isn’t covering Gaza accurately, shouldn’t they be held to the same standards? I’ve found corroborating news from Palestine on YouTube, Middle East Eye and Al-Jazeera. Only to find silence from Western sources. It’s disheartening.

nekandro ,

I mean, basically no one in the West covers China at all except to say “China bad and is simultaneously going broke and bankrolling all US politicians”

theneverfox ,
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Which in fairness, seems like it is actually true… Those aren’t actually mutually exclusive

My bigger problem is I can’t get a read on the state of China. They’re seasoning stones and ice because they’re having food issues… But it’s a continent sized country. It contains multitudes.

There’s a lot of crazy shit going on over there, but is it falling apart, in decline, or just undergoing some crazy shit?

Doorbook ,

You seems genuine in your post so I would like to inform you that the middle east eye is owned by Qatar or Al-Jazeera.

In general most news outlets are biased. That’s why you read multiple sources to confirm a report. Or if it is written by credible sources, or have clear videos and images.

snek ,
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Honestly providing multiple sources for the same story is not a bad idea, but sometimes that would mean 5 articles that are copy-pastas of each other

Aceticon ,

Quo custodiat ipsos custodiae? - Who watches the watchers?

It seems to me that if you’re running a propaganda operation, setting up a centralized entity telling us all what newsmedia is trustworthy or not is an obvious play to manipulate people.

Merely adding one level of delegation to “trust” doesn’t make something more or less trustworthy: some guys you know nothing about but what they (and the very people they say are trustworthy) tell us themselves, and who go around telling us who to trust and who not to trust, aren’t inherently trustworthy (in fact that’s an extra suspicious behaviour) - why should you trust them if you have no way to verify they’re both honest AND genuinelly competent at evaluating trustworthiness?

(PS: In the business of passing judgement on Trust merelly honesty is not eough - all of us know of somebody who is a good honest person and yet on Facebook keeps sharing obvious bullshit: they genuinelly believe it hence they’re honest in what they share, only they’re gullible so their flawed judgment on what they believe in means they’ll believe any old bollocks and then spread it with total honesty).

Trustworthiness is not an easy-peasy to solve “lets rely on these guys who just popped up on the Internet to tell us which news media to trust or not” and don’t at all ponder on the possible motivations and funding for that specific op - all this does did was add another link of uncertainty not solve the trust problem, and, worse, it’s a centralized one (a newspaper can only be or not be trustworthy, whilst these guys if they’re dishonest or incompetent actors can impact the preceived thrustworthiness of hundreds of newspapers) which makes it a much more desirable position for a propagandist.

cashews_best_nut ,

You’d fit right in at reddit r/worldnews

snek ,
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Al Jazeera reports factually, especially on issues in the middle east.

Do you think this article contains any propaganda?

nekandro ,

No, I don’t. It seems factual

snek ,
@snek@lemmy.world avatar

I agree. I think the reason Aljazeera report so well on this is due to having many Arabi speaking Journalists and employing many people from the Middle East. They usually have video evidence of everything they provide, making it hard to refute.

My main issue with them is Aljazeera Arabic’s emotional and charged language

For example it will say:

When Palestinian victims: استشهاد 4 اطفال four Children were martyred

When IDF deaths: الجيش الإسرائيلي يعترف بمقتل 4 من جنوده the Israeli army “admits” to four soldiers killed

But then again, it doesn’t bother me too much that the IDF “admits” casualties because they have been lying about that to everyone since the start. However, I would still prefer reading a source that won’t sway my emotions at every statement

I don’t see this often in Aljazeera English

nutsack ,

a better source has already been provided lemmy.world/comment/6229224

Linkerbaan ,
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Merry Christmas wishes from Genocide Joe and his Nazi friends.

naturalgasbad ,

This site fails to follow community guidelines for reliability: mediabiasfactcheck.com/al-jazeera/

nekandro ,

Lol who the fuck cares about MBFC? Why are you spamming posts about a useless rating made up by a single guy in North Carolina?

Gazumi ,

And our elected leaders stand by politely ignoring the obvious humanitarian issues and overt war crimes.

cyberpunk007 ,

Exactly, like what the fuck?

Alsephina ,

Well, the US does have an ardent pro-Israel Zionazi as the president this time around.

Genocide is fine so long as it destabilizes the middle east, gets oil corporations better deals thanks to that, and profits military corporations.

TrickDacy ,

Yeah isn’t it nice how simple the world is? Black or white. No nuance. Nuance sure would be shitty.

TokenBoomer ,

The world isn’t nice, because it’s so simple. Money.

fosho ,

it’s totally fair to criticize Biden as long as we can agree that the alternative is much worse.

the alternative: genocide plus fascism.

girlfreddy OP ,
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I think what annoys me most is the American news sources who trumpet Biden’s speeches saying that he’s told Netanyahu to stop the killing, yet fail to report America stonewalling a UN vote for a cease fire … and forcing the UN to water down what they do ask for.

I hate hypocrisy and America is full of it (like many nations are).

sigh

snek ,
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Yep. I noticed Biden is trying to have both: pretends to support a 2 state solution that will never happen, while simultaneously giving weapons in aid to Israel. And on top of that he expects people to vote for him because he’s not Trump.

You can’t have it all, Joe

conquer4 ,

And? I can not do shocked pickachu when they have done it for 234 years. At least this time we’re not the ones doing the war crimes.

TheHellDoIKnow ,

It has me truly dissuaded of the notion that the so called developed world has any sort of moral authority. We have to learn from this.

Buddahriffic ,

🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

Deckweiss ,

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