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HootinNHollerin ,

Some blame needs to go to ai

halloween_spookster ,

Some blame needs to go to ai corporate busidiots

FIFY

rockSlayer ,

If you’re one of these folks, consider unionizing. The best time to become an organizer is when you have one foot out the door. If you win, you get a union job. If you’re illegally fired, you get a nice payout and a new job. I’m an experienced union organizer with lots of connections, I’m willing to help folks find resources.

stoly ,

You (I was going to say “rock”) are awesome!

technomad ,

I’d be open to some of those resources, if you don’t mind

rockSlayer ,

Sure thing! The NLRB is a fantastic source, but only covers national labor rights. You’ll want to look up your state’s department of labor for local labor laws. CODE-CWA is the group I organized with, they specialize in the tech industry and offer free training each weekend; I know several of the top organizers in CODE, you’ll be in good hands. Dr Richard Wolff’s program Democracy@Work is a great general news source with a heavy emphasis on worker power and the broader economy. If there’s anything more specific you’d like, I can definitely provide those too!

sunzu2 ,

yeah nobody has gotten a proper raise over last few years so people taking matters into their own hands.

boomers are huffing their own farts thinking we should just keep working for them few more years while they exit

stoly ,

You’ve got it wrong! Boomers are actually the number one generation currently ENTERING the workforce. I suspect that it’s people who never prepared for retirement taking minimum wage jobs.

sunzu2 ,

The boomers who are holding wages down are old clowns looting the companies... not the same boomer

But either way, boomers are net negative for the labour force.

Do you got some numbers to back your claim that they are re-entering he work force at rate greater than they are exiting?

How are they out entering gen-z who is graduating college at like 2 millie per year?

stoly ,

An article came by a month or so ago but I’m sadly unable to find it. The argument was that boomers left and are now re-entering the workforce at higher numbers than Gen Z is currently doing.

sunzu2 ,

was this something from cnbc type article?

they do a lot FUD on employment topics.

timewarp ,
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Weird… Democrats will tell you that the job market is great and that not being able to afford a house is just vibeflation.

ThunderWhiskers ,
@ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world avatar

Who specifically is saying this?

sunzu2 ,

Fake news over last few months were tryingto explain to people they are making most money they ever made and their income increased higher then inflation (for like 1 or 2 quarters).

The people did not accept this shite as they can do basic math on money they got left after they pay rent and food. This aint rocket science and no amount of propaganda can fix this basic mathematical issue.

timewarp ,
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Joe Biden:

“We now have more jobs than we did before the pandemic. And workers aren’t just finding more jobs, they’re finding better jobs, higher pay, higher job satisfaction. And unemployment is down and so is inflation.”

If they’re saying there are more jobs, people are finding more jobs & better jobs, higher pay, higher job satisfaction… and inflation is down. But then people go buy gas, or go to the store, and still struggle substantially, or they want to buy a house for a family but the prices are out of control, or they keep getting rent increase notices… they aren’t going to feel what the Democrats are selling, cause it isn’t their reality. Poll after poll, the economy is the biggest reason people would not vote for Biden (and now Harris). They are trying to gaslight a majority of voters about reality.

Now, regardless you’re still better off voting Democrat. I would not recommend voting for Trump cause he did worse & will do worse. But Democrats need to stop trying to gaslight Americans. Kamala has changed her tune a bit to try to recognize that people are actually struggling, but it doesn’t help when they act like the economy is the best its ever been despite that not being a reality for a lot of people.

ThunderWhiskers ,
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All of those things you quoted Biden as saying can be (and are) true while still requiring improvement, which is also true.

That is also completely ignoring the fact that with a Republican Congress a Democratic president is severely hampered from having any actual impact on the economy.

There is also the issue of companies inflating the appearance of available work. Which would, again, make all of Biden’s statements appear to be technically true while simultaneously being more complicated in reality.

sunzu2 ,

That is also completely ignoring the fact that with a Republican Congress a Democratic president is severely hampered from having any actual impact on the economy.

just vote for my guy... trust me bro lol

timewarp ,
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All of those things you quoted Biden as saying can be (and are) true while still requiring improvement, which is also true.

I agree with most of what you’re saying… there are plenty of other statements though that is kind of like a slap in the face, basically making people feel like Democrats haven’t been honest about the job market & inflation. It is not a simple issue though and there are a lot of contributing factors. Kamala Harris suggesting going after price gouging is actually a significant cause of the issue that corporate shills on both sides are attacking her for. It actually does work to help solve some of the issues though, but thus far is merely a statement. The FTC actually has legal authority to go after companies for this already… it seems like we’ve seen a shortage of government attorneys tackling these issues and utilizing PR for the cases to reassure Americans that the administration isn’t just loyal to corporate donors. They should be hiring attorneys in droves to sue the fuck out of these companies engaging in this.

That is also completely ignoring the fact that with a Republican Congress a Democratic president is severely hampered from having any actual impact on the economy.

The FTC has authority to go after these companies already. There could be new laws and improvements in regulations, but laws already exist to tackle the issue.

There is also the issue of companies inflating the appearance of available work. Which would, again, make all of Biden’s statements appear to be technically true while simultaneously being more complicated in reality.

Exactly. Job number and statistic on the economy can be completely manipulated. That is why Democrats shouldn’t use economic numbers constantly to make it seem like everything is great and they should know better.

sunzu2 ,

The courts so far have been spotty though but yeah feds need to do their job first!!!

EatATaco ,

Nothing in your quote says if you can’t afford a home is just “vibration.”

What he said is accurate: wage growth has been out pacing inflation, especially among low wage workers, and unemployment is low. We’ve got a lot of catching up to do because of inflation over the past few years, but what you quote barely resembles what he has been saying.

sunzu2 ,

The people did not accept this shite as they can do basic math on money they got left after they pay rent and food. This aint rocket science and no amount of propaganda can fix this basic mathematical issue.

EatATaco ,

Over the past few years my wife switched jobs and works fully remote, making about the same amount of money. I got a 30% raise by switching jobs, and it has way better perks. My investments have gone crazy. I noticed things are more expensive, but day to say it hasn’t been much of a concern at all. Financially speaking , it’s been arguably the best few years of our life.

The difference between me and these people who “do basic math” is that I’m smart enough to realize that my personal experience is not the economy.

sunzu2 ,

Thank you for the services dear:

Over the past few years my wife switched jobs and works fully remote, making about the same amount of money. I got a 30% raise by switching jobs, and it has way better perks. My investments have gone crazy. I noticed things are more expensive, but day to say it hasn't been much of a concern at all. Financially speaking , it's been arguably the best few years of our life.

The difference between me and these people who "do basic math" is that I'm smart enough to realize that my personal experience is not the economy.

I am happy for you but we are talking national statistics, mainly incomes and core expenses for the population not a trust me bro :)

EatATaco ,

Wage growth has been outpacing inflation for a while now. And this is what Bidens pointing out: we’re going in the right direction. As I said, we have a lot of work to do, I realize that people are struggling.

But if people are like “in struggling so the economy is shit” well, then, I stand by my point that they are confusing their personal experience with the economy as a whole…

sunzu2 ,

you are still dancing around core issues here tbh. for example, median income does not buy median house. this ratio exposes that younger people are locked of housing market. this has nothing to do with "I am struggling so the economy is shit" this is just house math works.

what about, i have a decent job but anything within 30 minutes is unaffordable, i have to live 50 minutes and rent is still 50% of take home.

i can go on...

EatATaco ,

The economy cant get to somewhere better without going in the right direction. Right now it’s doing that, and that’s what Biden has been saying. As I said, and he has said, we have along way to go. By no stretch am I, or anyone really I’ve seen, saying anything is close to perfect.

I’m not dancing around the core point, it’s just that you can’t see past your own nose.

sunzu2 ,

it's just that you can't see past your own nose.

Yes🤡

EatATaco ,

I should have seen this level of discussion coming.

tacosanonymous ,

It’s easier to get a new job than a raise.

uriel238 ,
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And a new job at a desired position will get you 3x the raise than promotion withi to that position.

HMW did a video on this, which informs why everyone quiet quits that is, doesn’t work beyond their official duties in order to get management to take notice. So instead of putting your heart into your work, you half-ass your work and put your heart into seeking your next job (résumé, calling headhunters, etc.) and hope to to get upward mobility via job changes.

The companies screwed themselves over, by being too stingy with benefits and promotions, and by seeking to hire experienced workers from without, rather than training them themselves (and saving on onboarding).

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