Well, OK, yes we can talk about it, but you’re buying the beer.
And yes, tiling windows in KDE it is pretty good. But I would prefer the option of having a toggle on window decorations (unless there is one, but I missed it). I prefer my tiling windows to be undecorated, and my floating windows to be decorated.
Are you tiling everytime from scratch when you reboot? Windows not ending up where they have been last time? How can you call that #tiling? I tried it and its horribly compared to any decent #twm.
I prefer clean sessions but I could have it retain after reboot. Does it work as well as sway? No, but it's perfect for my needs and preferences (easy theming and gestures, but with tiling)
Edit - oh no I'm not setting the windows by hand. The tiling does... hope I'm following
I mean, can you provide a video of what you do when booting? Because to my knowledge the way you tile your desktops is not even saved between sessions? This is not what tiling is supposed to be in my book, its more hassle than benefit. But after 10 years of KDE use on my home desktop, I am also quite fed up with most of it. Windows rules disappearing/being deleted/renamed for now reason is just another reason.
Thanks for the video. If I understand this correctly, the way you tiled your desktop is saved, aka having on big window left and two horizontal tiled windows on the right. But where the windows are placed is determined by which window you open first? aka first window being left, then top right and after that bottom right?
Curious why people seem to love tiling so much. Generally I’m fine with windows being overlapped when swapping between apps/instances is so easy with alt-tabbing and such
A good argument for tiling window managers is the fact that many people who don’t use a tooling window manager still use their WM as if it were. My wife, for instance, used Windows for work. Every program is always maximized - in Office, even the dialog windows like the file chooser are, because they all just use the main window.
I would say that, if you’re going to work this way anyway, use a WM that’s designed for it, not a floating WM where you’ve hacked tiling onto it. Back to the example of Windows, it is a PITA to find the right window; the way Windows presents multiple windows of the same program is hideous. It’s painful watching my wife hunting to find the right Excel spreadsheet, or PPT. Desktops (or tags) are far superior, and if you have a lot of things open, tabs.
The exception is graphical work. Applications like Gimp, which have a lot of toolbars and frequently changing windows, are better floating (IMO).
But, basically… use the right tool for the job, and usually a tiling WM is the right tool. Desktop widgets make for cool screen shots, but who users a computer where they ever look at the desktop?
Yup. I mainly use tiling for most of my windows including terminal, but when I need to be more productive like when working in Darktable it’s easier to move to another workspace and have it fill the screen.
What are the benefits to this instead of a TWM? Just curious since I’ve been seeing a few people singing it’s praises, and wanted to know why I’d use it over a traditional TWM.
for me, just ease of use. I just open windows and have them there. I use the virtual desktops to handle a lot more open things and touchegg/touche to quickly swipe around. i tried to record it... but I don't htink it really shows how easy it is for me.
Ahhhh, okay. Definitely not what I’m after but I’m glad the middle ground exists for most people who aren’t insane lmao.
I will argue on the better connected parts bit though. Most apps designed for TWMs are intentionally very generic, minimal, and simple, making them blend together very nicely. Especially if you theme them, which is very easy to do in most cases.
I’ve tried kwin-bismuth… it wasn’t ideal. But there’s a built in feature added recently. It’s in the settings (sorry turned lappy off or id provide a screenshot)
I’ve toyed with tiling on GNOME as well. It’s a fantastic feature when you can easily toggle it off and on.
I don’t often use tiling on my laptop, it doesn’t usually do what I want at the time, but it’s really helpful when I’m plugged into a couple of 32in 4k displays.
I find it leaves me with too many odd sized windows that aren’t terribly useful. I think it’s one of those things that bother some people and not others 🤷♂️
weird on lemmy i see a much longer post lol - oh the ferdiverse
anyway, I think it's more preference for sure - I use touchegg as well with this with my own setups/gestures and it makes comparing lots of data quickly work out for my work flow. I do a lot "this" vs "that" - so for me it's great