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miridius ,

I hate this so much but I want to call out the Google and Apple are just as bad. I used edge for a while and I constantly got popups on every Google owned website telling me how great Chrome is and that I should switch, it was even worse than what you get from Windows telling you to use Edge. And don’t even get me started about Safari on iPhones…

postmateDumbass ,

" Microsoft Service Agreement"

/shudder

nostradiel ,
@nostradiel@lemmy.world avatar

Run a debloat script for windows from christitustech. And if you want to start from fresh install w10/11 ltsb/ltsc and run the debloat script, that is the safest option, if you don’t want to swap to Linux.

delaunayisation ,

I especially love that it was blurry. I shit you not, a blurry popup telling me to switch the search engine like some 2010 malware.

thattysonguy ,

I really don’t know why I bother reading the comments on any windows posts. It’s just full of Linux users trying to convert people.

It’s not going to happen. Most of us use our computers for leisure, not to have to find workarounds for most anything.

0ddysseus ,

This is literally a post of someone trying to find a workaround for a problem that only exists on windows… A question was asked and an appropriate answer given, if you refuse to accept the answer, thats on you, go read a different post

Katos ,

You’re part of the problem. If someone using Windows bugs you so much, go read a different post.

miridius ,

Yes exactly it’s a question about Windows. Saying “use Linux” is not relevant to this post, which is about Windows.

It’s also terrible advice.

yoz ,

You are setting a stage where corporations can exploit people like you who’re naive because they resist change. Change is good. Embrace it! I am not a linux user but I always keep my options open.

Smacks ,
@Smacks@lemmy.world avatar

That’s an odd way of saying “I don’t like Arch users”

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know why lemmy bothers having a specific instance for PC and Linux if the communities for everything from technology to mildly infuriating is just going to be people bitching about Windows.

Really feels like the quality of lemmy has gone down tbh, you can’t go anywhere without someone posting “Windows Bad.” The population grew but it was only the ones who cared about the API changes which just so happened to be the Linux community apparently.

I use Linux on everything that’s not my main desktop and it still pisses me off to see it just flooding everywhere.

Schlemmy ,

In Europe it isn’t. But I got it too. Even worse, my default browser was changed to Bing after an update.

zzz ,

Even worse, my default browser was changed to Bing after an update.

Is this not literally quite almost what their first big antitrust case was all about (shipping their OS together with Internet Explorer, back then) that almost got them broken up by the state?

Schlemmy ,

In a light version, yes.

miridius ,

European here. Which law is this breaking, exactly? Pretty sure advertising is legal

Schlemmy ,

It’s no ad, it’s nudging. Without being asked even. They don’t show you a list of search engines to set as default, they ask you to switch to Bing. My system just switched to Bing without asking.

Schlemmy ,

It’s no ad, it’s nudging. Without being asked even. They don’t show you a list of search engines to set as default, they ask you to switch to Bing. My system just switched to Bing without asking.

DerpyPlayz18 ,

I still don’t get how Microsoft got in trouble for bundling internet explorer but now they are completely fine doing this

PancakeLegend ,
@PancakeLegend@mander.xyz avatar

Frustratingly, the rulings preventing them from bundling software with an operating system stopped them from building in anti-virus measures. For years when Windows was synonymous with malware, they had their hands tied. 20 years later, they started including Windows defender / Security Essentials. The unnecessary global economic losses caused were immense.

Never_Sm1le ,
@Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id avatar

Because that haven’t cause any harm I guess? Google was punished for pulling the same stunt with Chrome, but they actually succeeded. Meanwhile, few people i know use Edge right now. My cousin used to advocate for Edge until a Windows update wiped his browser clean

tb_ ,
@tb_@lemmy.world avatar

Anti-trust regulation has gotten very toothless in recent years. The shit many corporations are pulling now is insane when you think back about what happened to ms then.

kilgore_trout ,

They will be fine doing this for 5 years, then a new antitrust ruling will tell them to stop, and so on.

Potato_in_my_anus ,

Perfectly legal… it’s just advertising. If they switch you without your consent then yes it’s illegal.

pineapplelover ,

Well…even then it’s probably legal. Assuming you’re using Windows OS. You’ve agreed to a long list of bs in terms and conditions. You paid like $200 for a license to rent out an operating system that spies on you and can change anything to it at will.

calavera ,

Some 90s judges don’t agree with that

DingoBilly ,

Omg this is completely illegal. You need to lawyer up right now!!! Your freedom and liberty is being taken away from you! How can you possibly survive this?

XTornado ,

Why wouldn’t it be legal? You are using their product and they put out a notification on it asking if you want to use one of their products. Why would that be illegal!?

Like I understand people not liking it, but illegal?

Doomsider ,

I am pretty sure they are insinuating that it is antitrust violation. It probably is but our current governance seems unwilling to do anything about anti-competitive practices.

nostradiel ,
@nostradiel@lemmy.world avatar

It is illegal in Europe.

XTornado ,

What is illegal? Asking you if you want to change your default search engine? That doesn’t sound illegal to me so I wonder what law is causing it to be illegal.

Syldon ,
@Syldon@feddit.uk avatar

Creating a monopoly with a competitive advantage is illegal in Europe.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

These posts are just getting insane at this point.

Rooty ,

Lets just rename this community to MicrosoftTechSupport and be done with it.

hurricane ,
@hurricane@lemmy.world avatar

Use Linux and quit worrying about this kind of shit.

regbin_ ,

And worry about other shit that you have to deal with

seitanic ,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Sure. I’d rather deal with Linux’s quirks and be spared the spam, spyware, nagware, etc. Also, the operating system itself is a joy to use. It’s so lean and configurable, unlike Windows. Whenever I have to use Windows, it’s so clunky I feel like a caveman.

dx1 ,

Seriously, Linux has a learning curve but the overall design is a thousand times cleaner than modern Windows, you can actually fix shit when it breaks instead of just reinstalling Windows once a year.

mmagod ,

curious… as someone who primarily browses the web, and works with apps like adobe creative suite, office 365, and zoom… could i still use linux comfortably?

im willing to pick up on new ways do things and i wouldn’t even mind if i had the ability to switch back/forth between OS’s using the same computer (is that possible?)

NoMoreCocaine ,

Adobe is the killer on your list. There’s no proper alternative. There are alternatives, but they’re fiddly and quality varies between different programs greatly.

75% of the issue would be solved if somehow the Linux community could convince the Affinity team that we’d all buy a Linux version of their software. Then you’d actually get the holy trinity of “illustrator, photoshop, indesign” alternative with great integration between the three.

But since Linux community is rabid about open source and nothing else, it’s not very likely to be happening. So we’ll be living under the rock until Adobe does Linux versions of their software (never). The only reasons why I have windows boot is music production, affinity, and some games.

elouboub ,
@elouboub@kbin.social avatar

Adobe applications is the only thing on your list that's really really non-Linux. It just won't work. If there's a web version of it, then it will, but desktop versions, absolutely not.

You can dual-boot: when you turn on your computer, you'll have the option to boot into linux or windows. You could boot into windows to do your adobe suite stuff and into linux for everything else - many games work on linux (if that's what you're into). Just check https://www.protondb.com/

There are a lot of dual-booting tutorials out there. Linux is just a core component of the operating system, but the things on top like desktop environment, window management, package/app management, configuration manager, default apps, look and feel, etc. are bundled together into "distributions". For beginners, probably Linux Mint and Ubuntu are your best bet.

You can even look up hardware compatibility using https://linux-hardware.org/?view=search_computer . But the easiest is to pick Linux Mint or Ubuntu, find a dual-booting tutorial, backup your windows data, and install the chosen distro.

mmagod ,

cool man, thank you and @NoMoreCocaine for the helpful repsonses… i’ll check out the dual boot option… also i wouldn’t even mind using a remote access tool to access a standalone windows based pc if i really needed to… im getting tired of their ship

regbin_ ,

I use Linux on my workstation every day and I’m very familiar with it. I still very much prefer Windows for my main PC.

smileyhead ,

I’d rather spend my time learning how computer and operating systems works instead of spending time learning how to avoid Windows roadblocks.

tabular ,
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

That’s like telling a smoker “just stop smoking and you’ll be healthier”.

A joke will at least get more positive reactions. It may convey the same message. -sad penguin noises-

Franzia ,

Did you just tell someone to smile more but in text form?

xantoxis ,

What company was it that lost an antitrust lawsuit again? It was something like Macrosoft? Microphone? idr

mwguy ,

Lost is a strong word. Shure they lost the suit. But in reality they were just forced to start playing the politics game.

teuast ,

I remember them feeling pretty Blue about it.

throws_lemy ,
@throws_lemy@reddthat.com avatar

Microsuck??

ripcord ,
@ripcord@kbin.social avatar

Get Firefox. Problem solved!

CluelessDude ,

This also shows if you have Firefox, source: someone that only uses Firefox and got this message today.

Armetron ,
@Armetron@lemmy.world avatar

It is because you agreed to to the terms and conditions of the Windows operating system

ripcord ,
@ripcord@kbin.social avatar

Those are likely mostly unenforceable.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

hack Microsoft simply

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