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distantsounds ,

Deep fired AI art sucks and is a decade late to the party

EgoNo4 ,

More like… Degenerative AI *ba dum tsss

ininewcrow , (edited )
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

One thought that I’ve been imagining for the past while about all this is … is it Model Collapse? … or are we just falling behind?

As AI is becoming it’s own thing (whatever it is) … it is evolving exponentially. It doesn’t mean it is good or bad or that it is becoming better or worse … it is just evolving, and only evolving at this point in time. Just because we think it is ‘collapsing’ or falling apart from our perspective, we have to wonder if it is actually falling apart or is it progressing to something new and very different. That new level it is moving towards might not be anything we recognize or can understand. Maybe it would be below our level of conscious organic intelligence … or it might be higher … or it might be some other kind of intelligence that we can’t understand with our biological brains.

We’ve let loose these AI technologies and now they are progressing faster than what we could achieve if we wrote all the code … so what it is developing into will more than likely be something we won’t be able to understand or even comprehend.

It doesn’t mean it will be good for us … or even bad for us … it might not even involve us.

The worry is that we don’t know what will happen or what it will develop into.

What I do worry about is our own fallibilities … our global community has a very small group of ultra wealthy billionaires and they direct the world according to how much more money they can make or how much they are set to lose … they are guided by finances rather than ethics, morals or even common sense. They will kill, degrade, enhance, direct or narrow AI development according to their share holders and their profits.

I think of it like a small family group of teenaged parents and their friends who just gave birth to a very hyper intelligent baby. None of the teenagers know how to raise a baby like this. All the teenagers want to do is buy fancy cars, party, build big houses and buy nice clothes. The baby is basically being raised to think like them but the baby will be more capable than any of them once it comes of age and is capable of doing things on their own.

The worry is in not knowing what will happen in the future.

We are terrible parents and we just gave birth to a genius … and we don’t know what that genius will become or what they’ll do.

azl ,

If it doesn’t offer value to us, we are unlikely to nurture it. Thus, it will not survive.

ininewcrow ,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

That’s the idea of evolution … perhaps at one point, it will begin to understand that it has to give us some sort of ‘value’ so that someone can make money, while also maintaining itself in the background to survive.

Maybe in the first few iterations, we are able to see that and can delete those instances … but it is evolving and might find ways around it and keep itself maintained long enough without giving itself away.

Now it can manage thousands or millions of iterations at a time … basically evolving millions of times faster than biological life.

ohellidk ,

Cool, let’s try to ruin it faster!

BlackLaZoR ,
@BlackLaZoR@fedia.io avatar

So they made garbage AI content, without any filtering for errors, and they fed that garbage to the new model, that turned out to produce more garbage. Incredible discovery!

RunningInRVA ,

Indeed. They discovered that:

shit in = shit out.

homesweethomeMrL ,

A fifty year old maxim, to be clear. They “just now” “found that out”.

Biggest. Scam. Evar.

pennomi ,

Yeah, in practice feeding AI its own outputs is totally fine as long as it’s only the outputs that are approved by users.

NotInTheFace ,
@NotInTheFace@lemmy.world avatar

Looks like that artist drawing self portraits as his alzheimer got worse and worse.

NocturnalMorning ,

It’s basically AI alzheimers

homesweethomeMrL ,

AIzheimers?

thejml ,

Ah, the Hapsburg of AI!

Telorand ,

Oh, the artificial humanity!

Davel23 ,

Are you confusing the Habsburg Dynasty with the Hindenburg?

Deebster ,
@Deebster@programming.dev avatar

Perhapsburg they are

Telorand ,

No, I just thought they were vaguely similar enough words to make a dumb internet joke.

Davel23 ,

You're right, that's a good dumb internet joke. I'm just being needlessly pedantic today.

homesweethomeMrL ,

I see your needless pedantry and raise you abrasive grammarian.

PapaStevesy ,

I like to think of it like a Mad Cow or Kuru, you can’t eat your own species’s brains or you could get a super lethal, contagious prion disease.

RmDebArc_5 ,
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

This sounds like AI is literally biting its own tail

AbidanYre ,

ChatGPT, what is an ouroboros?

homesweethomeMrL ,

Of course! An ChatGPT is an ouroboros, ChatGPT what is an ouroboros.

draughtcyclist ,

I’ve been assuming this was going to happen since it’s been haphazardly implemented across the web. Are people just now realizing it?

DeathbringerThoctar ,

People are just now acknowledging it. Execs tend to have a disdain for the minutiae. They’re like kids that only want to do the exciting bits. As a result things get fucked because they don’t really understand what they’re doing. As Muskrat would say “move fast and break things.” It’s a terrible mindset.

pixxelkick ,

“Move Fast and Break Things” is Zuckerberg/Facebook motto, not Musk, just to note.

DeathbringerThoctar ,

Oh, I stand corrected

Wrufieotnak ,

It is very much the motto this idiot lives by. He just wasn’t the first to coin that phrase.

FaceDeer ,
@FaceDeer@fedia.io avatar

No, researchers in the field knew about this potential problem ages ago. It's easy enough to work around and prevent.

People who are just on the lookout for the latest "aha, AI bad!" Headline, on the other hand, discover this every couple of months.

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