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Banichan ,
@Banichan@dormi.zone avatar

Can’t have secret talk amongst the peasants

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Telegram, including secret chats, is not blocked because Russian elites happen to use that, too.

brrt ,

I could put on my tinfoil hat and say if signal is blocked but telegram isn’t, maybe that means that telegram isn’t as secret as they make it out to be.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

It’s open source. Look can up the encryption yourself.

catloaf ,

Can it be proven that that encryption is what’s used in practice?

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Just use the F-Droid version if there is any doubt.

doodledup ,

They don’t have reproducible builds afaik (unlike Signal). You can have a completely different code running on your phone than on GitHub.

Besides, who is using Secret Chat anyways? All default chats and group chats are unencrypted.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

You can have a completely different code running on your phone than on GitHub.

Just use the F-Droid version if there is any doubt.

Besides, who is using Secret Chat anyways?

Probably Russians who used Signal before.

doodledup ,

The F-droid version is also not reproducible. The binary you install has a different hash than the one you build from the GitHub.

Varcour ,

No need, all you have to do is read the whitepaper. they home brewed the encryption algorithm and nobody actually knows if it’s worth a damn. That’s not exactly a secret.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

nobody actually knows if it’s worth a damn.

After all these years, security researchers still don’t know if the encryption is any good?

lemmylommy ,

Telegram is shady as fuck and also afaik only uses end to end encryption in „secret“ one on one chats.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Telegram is shady as fuck and also afaik only uses end to end encryption in „secret“ one on one chats.

I was very explicitly referring to secret chats.

Treczoks ,

Youtube, signal blocked. What is Putin afraid of?

lemmylommy ,

Details or continued news of Ukraines special military operation to denazify Russia?

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Signal over Proton VPN Stealth protocol. All free, specifically for these types of situations.

independantiste ,
@independantiste@sh.itjust.works avatar

Signal needs a phone number though

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

They did away with that some time ago.

EDIT: To clarify, it no longer shows the number.

signal.org/blog/phone-number-privacy-usernames/

independantiste ,
@independantiste@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s not really the issue though, if you want to stay anonymous and not tell the government you use signal, since sms is insecure

treadful ,
@treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

Non-paywalled: archive.is/9MEKt

neme OP ,

Not seeing paywall myself, clearing cookies and other site data might also help.

Socsa ,

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