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venusaur ,
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Am I an old fart for being concerned about future generations growing up with self driving cars?

I guess I grew up with a lot of automated things, but I feel like driving is something that people should be able to do for safety reasons.

partial_accumen ,

I guess I grew up with a lot of automated things, but I feel like driving is something that people should be able to do for safety reasons.

Have you not met “people”? People drive like absolute idiots. I had to emergency brake just yesterday because the woman driving the car to my right was drifting into my lane at highway speeds while she negotiated a large 24oz can of some beverage in her left driving hand while simultaneously holding a cigarette. Her right hand and both eyes were busy doing something on her cell phone.

There is very little safe about people driving.

jballs ,
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Yeah, recently I’ve started paying attention to what other drivers are doing while stopped at intersections. The amount of people using their cell phones behind the wheel astonishes me.

scrion ,

Yes, you probably are. Please don’t forget that the current available technology constantly improves, and that we actually don’t see any good examples of self - driving cars that much - the most prominent displays are from Tesla, and they arguably build the worst cars we’ve seen since Ford came up with the assembly line.

The technology used in autonomous vehicles, e. g. sensors, have been used in safety critical application for decades in other contexts, and a machine is capable of completely different reaction times. Also, if autonomous vehicles cooperate in traffic sticking to their programmed behavior, observing traffic rules etc., you will get less reckless driving, with traffic flow becoming more deterministic. These benefits will particularly increase once self-driving cars don’t have to share the road with human drivers.

I would always trust a well-engineered, self-driving car more than one driven by a human.

Disclaimer: I used to work on these things in a research lab. Also, we’re not quite there yet, so please have a little patience.

IndiBrony ,
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I’m a driving instructor and I believe automated roads would be a godsend. I’d actually be happy the day I don’t have to do my job, not because I hate it - I actually love my job - but because automated roads would be so much safer overall.

venusaur ,
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I guess that’s fair. Machines would be much less accident prone than humans, but you can’t automate everything on the road (e.g. people, bikes, non-automated vehicles). People are going to have to be able to know how to get out of situations manually. What about emergencies where you have to do something that the automated roads aren’t programmed for?

reddig33 ,

Nissan was one of the first car companies to ship an EV. Not sure what “catching up” they need to do.

obbeel OP ,

I think it’s related to the rise of China’s BYD.

Skua ,

I assume that's about the self-driving part rather than the EV part. Honda was the first to actually sell something that met the requirements for the (American) Society of Automotive Engineers' Levels of Driving Automation that counted as the the human in the driver's seat not driving

tyler ,

I thought that was Mercedes (in Nevada), unless you’re talking about sales outside of America.

tyjjtftjtfjrht , (edited )
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Liquid powered cars are more versatile compared to EVs. At least China will continue to produce them.

Iheartcheese ,
@Iheartcheese@lemmy.world avatar

More versatile FOR ME TO POOP ON

Blaster_M ,

ok Uncle Unfiltered Cigarettes

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Only because current infrastructure supports them. They will only become less versatile going forward while EVs become more.

over_clox , (edited )

Title is confusing.

Edit: Isuzu uses at least some GMC sensors. So please explain to me where the confusion is.

Oh that’s right, they’re cross compatible, or at least they once were…

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