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mox , (edited )

Another problem with Cloudflare:

They are a man-in-the-middle between users and a sizable chunk of web and domain name servers, putting them in a position to track your behavior all over the place (even if you use an ad blocker).

And in many cases, they provide the encryption for those sites, so they can read or modify your unencrypted traffic as it passes between them and the origin servers.

Badeendje ,
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They don’t care. As long as their bills are payed they will host anything that won’t get them in legal trouble.

Nighed ,
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If they were removing sites people would bash them too, there is no way they can win.

conciselyverbose ,

They shouldn’t care. Their job is not to control the internet. It’s to provide routing and content delivery.

Responding to legal takedown notices is as far as they should go, and in a better system, would be as far as they’re legally allowed to go.

9tr6gyp3 ,

So why are they still servicing 4chan if 4chan has a bunch of illegal content on it?

conciselyverbose ,

Their job is not to control the internet

They take websites offline if and only if they receive a legal order to do so.

Sites with user generated content have broad protections against illegal actions of their users unless they do one of a small handful of things that exposes them to liability, like actively participating or ignoring legitimate takedown requests. It’s not an accident. That’s how the internet is intended to work, and the only way allowing user generated content is realistically possible.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Exactly. In fact, I’d prefer for services like Cloudflare to not know much of anything about their customers, aside from whether they’re legally allowed to use the service.

conciselyverbose ,

Yeah, the biggest threat they pose is how many domains they see everything from.

Though they did use it well with that JS supply chain bullshit a month or two ago (and equally importantly, explicitly acknowledged in their announcement that it was an extraordinary measure and not something they wanted to make a routine thing).

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