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Microsoft is not done yet: more ads spotted in latest Windows 11 build - gHacks Tech News

When is an ad an advertisement and not a recommendation? Microsoft clearly likes to use the term recommendation for what others may see as an advertisement.

There are recommendations in the Start menu, Settings app, Lock screen, File Explorer, Get Help app, and other areas of the operating system already. These are often not that useful. App recommendations in the Start menu are limited to Microsoft Store apps.

Now, Microsoft is testing recommendations in the Microsoft Store app. If you never use the app, you won’t be exposed to these. If you do, you may notice recommendations popping up when you try to use the built-in search.

First spotted by phantomofearth on X, two or three recommendations are shown whenever search is activated in the official Microsoft Store app.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i can’t believe they wrote an entire article to whine about ads IN A STORE APP

GoogleSellsAds ,
@GoogleSellsAds@sh.itjust.works avatar

Gotta keep that rage up.

Bluefruit ,

As soon as they announced ads were gonna be in the start menu, i noped out of windows. I only use it for work which doesn’t bother me because im not doing anything private on my work pc.

I switched to Fedora 40 with KDE and never looked back. My only real gripe is with making music. Getting the VSTs to work and setting up yabridge is kind of a headache that i still need to do 😮‍💨 aside from that, Linux has been my daily driver for quite a while now and im happy i switched even though im still learning.

Routhinator ,
@Routhinator@startrek.website avatar

I have not dove into yabridge yet. What DAW did you go with?

After poking around I decided to go with Bitwig and skip trying to go with getting Ableton working with Proton or Wine. I’ve actually been enjoying some of their default VSTs as I practice my piano again, but I do miss my paid VSTs a lot.

Have been really looking around at the vsts that have native Linux support though. Was really glad to see of u-he’s VSTs worked natively.

Bluefruit ,

I’m a huge fan of reaper. Nice clean daw for a good price imo. It being cross platform was a bonus. I started making music on Windows and the best part of switching to linux was that reaper just works after figuring out how the hell to install it lol. Some Linux stuff im ok at but im still figuring things out.

And same here. I’m a self pianist like my grandfather was. I really like addictive keys for playing piano and was happy to see the standalone version works with bottles. But without yabridge setup, i haven’t been able to make much recently.

Ive been looking to find a replacement for addictive keys thats native to linux or works well at least.

Routhinator ,
@Routhinator@startrek.website avatar

I will have to take a look at Reaper!

Bluefruit ,

Its $60 for a personal/small bussines use and a great daw. Would recommend. But whatever daw works best for you is great too :)

johannesvanderwhales ,

I kind of expect ads in an app store, but I also don’t use the ms app store.

EnderWiggin ,

The ads are in the app store. I don’t really understand why that’s a problem. Although I’m probably the only tool out there that actually likes Windows 11.

sturmblast ,

lol yep you probably are

EnderWiggin ,

Self aware idiot.

ShittyBeatlesFCPres ,

I would say a “recommendation” is an ad when an accountant is involved instead of (or in addition to) a curator. Even if it’s Microsoft recommending Microsoft’s products, department budgets probably track that internally (though I’m sure the official accounting is done in a way that shifts profits to a tax haven).

r00ty Admin ,
r00ty avatar

Yeah, basically as soon as money changes hands, a recommendation becomes an ad.

dinckelman ,

How many more of these will it take, until people start looking for alternatives

lustyargonian ,

I think it is already happening gradually. SteamDeck has single handedly opened the eyes of so many already. M1 Macs did that for macOS as well.

cakeistheanswer ,
@cakeistheanswer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think it’s grossly undersold personally. What valve has managed is getting the single target platform open source could never agree on.

It’s a small miracle, and it bleeds over into stuff like device driver support in a way I don’t think most people who didn’t deal with Linux in the 2.x era immediately appreciate.

If Linux on the desktop has a surge, they did a lot of the legwork.

QuarterSwede ,
@QuarterSwede@lemmy.world avatar

Until it affects businesses it won’t change. Once they start to add them to Office, it’s all over.

iAmTheTot ,

I have used Windows 10 for years and recently switched to Windows 11 and I don’t think I’ve ever seen an ad in my day to day OS use. I don’t do the registry edits or turn off the telemetry stuff, either. I don’t know what I’m doing differently but I’m not seeing these ads that apparently infected Windows.

folekaule ,

Most of these reports are about preview builds of Windows.

That said, surely you have seen recommendations from Microsoft to try their Office package and such oil up. It’s like that, but more intrusive.

I can’t believe Microsoft is making me switch from Windows to Mac and Linux, but here we are.

iAmTheTot ,

Actually, no I’ve never seen an ad for office but that might be because I’m already a customer.

andyburke ,
@andyburke@fedia.io avatar

Are you running Home or a Pro-like version?

iAmTheTot ,
Codename_goose ,
@Codename_goose@sh.itjust.works avatar

The home edition of windows has these ads baked in, but the pro/enterprise editions seem to be able to avoid this for now.

iAmTheTot ,

I have home.

Codename_goose ,
@Codename_goose@sh.itjust.works avatar

If you also live in Europe or set up your computer in the US with European English then you can also skirt some of the ads as well

iAmTheTot ,

Nope and nope.

ulkesh ,
@ulkesh@lemmy.world avatar

<Linux User> That’s unfortunate.

YurkshireLad ,

Sounds like they’re reaching feature parity with Apple and Google. Both already do that so I’m not surprised. I never use Microsoft’s App Store so I’ll never see them.

piyuv ,

Apple?

YurkshireLad ,

What about Apple? Sorry, I don’t understand what you’re asking.

thirstyhyena ,

I’m surprised they didn’t put ads in the blank area of the taskbar.

Plopp ,

Or on the entire desktop. Ad wallpapers when?

Fedizen ,
misterwu , (edited )

I already run Linux on my laptop. The one thing keeping me from getting rid of Windows on my big machine is Forza games. Motorsport does not seem to work at all with proton/wine (yet)

rozodru ,
@rozodru@lemmy.ca avatar

really? I got Forza Horizon working on my Linux machine through Steam.

What distro are you using? I’ve heard if you’re on Mint you’re going to have a bad time. I’m using CachyOS and haven’t had any issues.

misterwu ,

Didn’t try it with Horizon, i want to play Forza Motorsport (2023) which is completely borked because of the shitty microsoft DRM

sylver_dragon ,

While I hate ads as much as the next person, I’m having trouble getting outraged by ads in an app store. “Recommendations” are kinda par for that course. Sure, it would be nice if those “recommendations” actually reflected stuff I was interested in and not just who paid Microsoft the most for ad placement. But, I also aggressively turn off telemetry (and actually don’t use Windows at home). So, it’s not like I expect useful recommendations anyway.

Ioughttamow ,

I’m just riding win10 until I finally nab a new gpu and 5700x3d. Htpc and media server are running mint, I think I’ll change the server distro next time I upgrade the hardware though

YeetPics ,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Listen, bill gates just needs to buy more arable land. This, of course, is your capital to earn by being good and not using linux or Firefox to banish these innocent little ads.

sturmblast ,

Gates could never make another cent and it wouldn’t matter to him in regards to purchasing power.

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