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Ironically, proper SSR that has the server render the page as pure HTML & CSS is becoming more and more popular lately thanks to full-stack meta frameworks that make it super easy.

I know. Just the “full-stack meta frameworks” part alone makes any ADHD person feel nausea.

Of course, wanting to go back to having no JS is crazy — websites would lose almost all ability to make pages interactive, and that would be a huge step backwards, no matter how much nostalgia you feel for a time before widespread JS.

I disagree. Geminispace is very usable without scripts.

That’s right, they do and they are.

Well, then it appears they don’t care for what I need, so I don’t care for what they need. If only one paradigm must remain, then naturally I pick mine. If not, then there’s no problem and I still shouldn’t care.

And those industry rules I was answering about are about making a thing work for both, even if being less functional.

Flash and Java Applets were a disaster and a horrible attempt at interactivity, and everything we have today is miles ahead of them. I don’t even want to get into making arguments as to why because it’s so widely documented.

Sorry, but either you still make an argument or this isn’t worth much.

For me it’s obvious that embeddable cross-platform applications as content inside hypertext are much better than turning a hypertext system into some overengineered crappy mess of a cross-platform application system.

The security issues with Flash and Java applets weren’t much different from those in the other parts of a web browser back then.

There are vastly more usable and simple tools for making your own personal websites today!

I ask you for links and how many clicks and fucks it would take to make one with these, as opposed to back then. These are measurable, scientific things. Ergonomics is not a religion.

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