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BlackCoffee ,

"In a pinned message on r/funny, the biggest subreddit to go private before recently reopening, a moderator implored Reddit “to listen to its moderators, its contributors, and its everyday users” and asked it to “not tacitly enable bad actors by working against your volunteers.” r/Apple also recently reopened after being closed out of fears that it would be forcibly reopened. “We want the best for this community and have no choice but to open it back up — or have it opened for us,” a moderator wrote. Another r/Apple mod is resigning in protest of Reddit’s actions."

Imagine having no spine, except that 1 mod (kudos to that person).

Why even bother to blackout if you are gonna bulge after the first threat?

Do even the subs themselves thought that 48 hours was enough to do something? Can someone be that naive?

I thought the subs were actually gonna abide by what the community wants?

How is opening up helping the community when you voted to be down indefinitely just 1 day ago? It is actively screwing them because it shows Reddit is right.

Following it up with a pinned message telling how you still not agree, b*tch please.

Just stop with the posturing then and bend over for Reddit already.

harky ,

It is like an abusive relationship. Just imagine how much time these mods spend on those subs. How much effort they've put in. I don't fault some of them for not being able to walk away or be unable to bear handing the keys over to a bad actor.

Uninsured ,

I fully understand that. Plus, there would be no way of organizing what I had mentioned anyway. I just sucks seeing this guy lie, and tear down these communities and quite frankly, escapes for a lot of people.

I saw a comment on r/eyebleach asking them not to go private again, because they like to browse it when they're feeling down... all because of greedy ass hats.

ParkingPsychology ,

plans to pursue changes” that would let regular users vote moderators out more easily

I think that's a good thing in the long run.

There is already a perfectly fine mechanism to deal with bad mods, you just go to a different sub. That approach has worked fine for many years.

There's a reason they never added any other mechanism.

Don't forget there are people with tens of thousands of aged accounts that are itching for ways to make money with them.

Nobody ,

If they force subs back open, mods all over the site should go on strike. If the admins don’t value mods enough to honor their word and follow their own rules, they should see what an unmoderated reddit looks like. Maybe that will be a wake up call.

Xathonn ,
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If they replace the mods and add the ability to vote out mods like they said, community should just repeatedly vote out the scabs.

Alto ,
@Alto@kbin.social avatar

Won't happen because the votes aren't actually going to be votes. Reddit will just claim a majority voted in favor of kicking out the current ones, and then claim that no one wants to kick out the ones they instill

Helium ,
@Helium@kbin.social avatar

Yeah it’s not like Reddit is a governmental body here lmao. What’s the repercussion if they fake a vote? Downvotes?

nuttydepressor ,
@nuttydepressor@kbin.social avatar

Do mods have the power to just nuke their subreddit? That'd be the biggest move. If a few big subreddits were to do this, that'd be an instant and significant loss.

GaryPonderosa ,

plans to pursue changes” that would let regular users vote moderators out more easily

I think that’s a good thing in the long run. A lot of reddit moderators are absolutely shit people, and having an actual process to remove them is a good thing.

It should go without saying fuck u/spez and that his motives here are absolutely malicious in nature, but I do see some small good coming from this.

DLSchichtl ,

Thing is, folks have been begging for that for years. Only now that the volunteers are resisting does the idea carry water for old spud. Kinda outs the feature as a “democratic” tool to squash dissent. Definitely solidifies my decision not to return.

Adubya ,
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Then we also don’t know if the action is just temporary to just remedy a problem before IPO or a serious consideration. Rolling it out quickly is moronic too because what about smaller subs & targeted harassment.

techno156 ,

It might also cause some interesting problems.

What happens if a sub votes out all the moderators of a sub, before there are any new ones?

Could they remove Reddit devs from /r/Reddit or /r/Reddit.com? Being admins, they could probably just put themselves back on, but the imagery of them being forced off their own sub is a little funny.

Helium ,
@Helium@kbin.social avatar

Pretty obvious that these tools only apply to dissenting subs… after this all blows over, there won’t be a single reddit employee even looking at this system

hobocat ,

They even explicitly stated that!

If there are mods here who are willing to work towards reopening this community, we are willing to work with you to process a Top Mod Removal request or reorder the mod team to achieve this goal if mods higher up the list are hindering reopening. We would handle this request and any retaliation attempts here in this modmail chain immediately.

This system is being implemented for the sole purpose of kicking out mods that are keeping subs private. It's absolutely retaliatory. There's no chance that they maintain this system as an actual long-term change to reddit's mod removal policies. It would be too much overhead to staff.

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