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Dudewitbow ,

POTENTIAL CURBS ON FOREIGN STUDENTS Around 40% of ASML’s 23,000 employees in the Netherlands are not Dutch

hell, when I interviewed at ASML in San Jose, California, i had the vibe that most of the employees there werent American born. sounds like its an internal hiring problem.

LemmyHead ,

A lot of IT companies in NL hire foreigners. There’s just too little local offer. They throw with work visas as a result, because they’ve never heard about remote-first work being possible after covid. They can’t modernize their work culture because of stupid old fashioned managers and as a result NL has one of the worst housing crisis in Europe. And pay ain’t that good either in a lot of cases, taking into account how much you lose on rent.

Dudewitbow ,

the problem is at least on the U.S end, Sam Jose is part of the Silicon Valley. Talent is not the problem, its the people who ultimately choose to hire is going out of its way to hire talent that seemed non local.

corsicanguppy , (edited )

See this is the sad part.

I’d take a job in NL only if it let me relo there for awhile. My bro did that for a few posts, and got a year or two in new country to explore on the weekends with each new posting.

So while remote-first is how I want to work, I’d want resources and ability to relo to a new place every few years. You need to be in place that renews you mentally when you’re not working.

Especially in I-T, if you can’t go somewhere new and enjoy new sounds, sights, smells and customs, and you’re stuck in a sad cube jungle with no excitement at the end of the week, you may as well report to the Soylent green plant.

Time to refit the cruise ship for live-aboard remote global work for me and like 6000 of my friends. Starlink works on the cruise runs, right?

qaz OP ,

Do you imply that they’re not looking at foreign employees when hiring? Because that’s what is getting more difficult due to regulations.

Aopen ,
@Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

In typical scenario private company lobbies governmemt to pass favorable law
Here government lobbies itself to pass favorable law for a private company

Worth mentioning: TSMC has the same problem:
thinkchina.sg/taiwan-lacks-young-passionate-worke…

corymbia ,

I don’t understand. Why are they so keen on limiting video as of whispering ladies spreading gorilla glue on raw chickens with wire brushes ?

bolzolol , (edited )

So I think many of the ASML ladies have migrated to the Netherlands due to them being highly qualified in the area and there seems to be a lack of people who can do it locally. With the 30% tax ruling that’s a sweet deal if you’ve got the right background and experience.

I assume whispering in Dutch would just sound horrible and insulting to the ears. I kinda get that they would want to move to France. I imagine French whispering to be more appealing, so they would need to hire less skilled workers from foreign countries.

The only thing that I still don’t get is why they need a factory for this when it’s such a WFH friendly job.

DreadPotato ,
@DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz avatar

You’re thinking of ASMR, this is related to ASML…two completely unrelated things.

flamingos ,

To be fair, an ASML engineer explaining some advanced piece of tech would be great ASMR.

bolzolol ,

Well that was the joke. Tough crowd

DreadPotato ,
@DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz avatar

All crowds are tough when the jokes are bad

bolzolol ,

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Rick’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick’s existential catchphrase “Wubba Lubba Dub Dub,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon’s genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools… how I pity them. 😂

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎

corymbia ,

No, you’re thinking of AMFM, the famous radio station.

MaggiWuerze ,

When you combine them you get ASM Stereo

TheFriar ,

Don’t worry, bud. I thought it was funny. In fact, I was gonna make the same joke, but saw you’d made it first and paid the price lol

corymbia ,

Thanks.

scorpionix ,
@scorpionix@feddit.de avatar

Same situation here in Germany, where companies are worried about attracting skilled foreign workers while right-wing extremist parties are gaining more and more votes.

gravitas_deficiency ,

It’s kind of baffling that the saner elements of these conservative parties simply don’t get that all the really smart people who tend to have disproportionately large positive impacts on their country’s economies simply won’t put up with authoritarian governments, and will straight up leave if push comes to shove. The politicians in question are evidently unable to understand the catastrophic impact that brain drain can have on a country in the medium- to long-term.

catloaf ,

They don’t care. They’re happy with their little fiefdoms, even if all they rule over is mud.

Aceticon ,

My homeland, Portugal, was until 50 years ago governed by the Fascists.

There were maybe 9 extremelly wealthy families all the while the country was crushingly poor with most of the population below the poverty line (we’re talking children walking to school barefoot in the middle of Winters as my mother did levels of poverty).

The country required a Revolution to overthrow Fascism.

Personally all of it tells me all I need to know about just how much the hard right (which nowadays in many places includes a lot of the old “center”-right mainstream parties) and beyond cares about the fate of the rest of their country.

solomon42069 ,

Show me where in the Western world / developed world where to go… please.

I’m in Australia and it’s just as bad here. Totally insane bullshit being normalised by a comatose media and populist scoundrels.

I miss the days when conservatives at least had a sense of real nationalism. Now they’ll commit treason and openly support foreign enemies like Putin and no one bats an eye.

MaggiWuerze ,

Norway?

solomon42069 ,

Yeah that’s actually a very good suggestion.

Also interested in Germany as even diminished today it’s got a lot more in line with my and my partner’s values - namely sausage, beer and being anti Nazi.

MaggiWuerze ,

As a German, Komm rüber!

Fisch ,
@Fisch@lemmy.ml avatar

I think that those people might actually think that what they’re doing is good for the country and that that’s what people want

Furedadmins ,

They don’t care. They aren’t even looking at the small picture, they are busy trying to decide which crayon to eat.

gravitas_deficiency ,

Hey, the marines would be very upset if they heard you badmouthing their favorite flavor.

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