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Drewfro66 ,
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Elon Musk runs the whole of Twitter like the jealous, power-drunk moderator of a small 5,000-member Discord server.

GunnarRunnar ,

No surprise there. Weren't they banning people for posting their Mastodon/Cohost accounts or something?

IHeartBadCode ,
@IHeartBadCode@kbin.social avatar

Yes. Twitter was at one point tagging links to Mastodon as "potentially harmful" and removing them.

But the one thing that's been shown consistent about Mr. Musk's ownership of Twitter is that it is consistently self-contradicting. So as Twitter positions itself as "free speech absolutist" one can rest assured that the reality will be "self-contradicting".

Let us not forget that time that Musk said that "Elon Jet Tracker" would not be banned WHILE it was indeed banned. Literally tweeting verifiably false information and then subsequently being called out on it, only for Musk to do the traditional "ignore and move on".

IHeartBadCode ,
@IHeartBadCode@kbin.social avatar

Ah yes. The exact kind of action I would expect from someone who has measured responses like "Zuck is a cuck".

Use a platform ran by a five year-old, expect five year-old behavior.

MarioBarisa ,
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how is that free speech, twitter is blocking a competitor for obvious reasons

Cyyy ,

same as reddit did with lemmy and kbin when they banned users and sub for mentioning it and giving migration howto’s

Syrc ,

They did? Have a source? That seems like one more argument against the “Lemmy doesn’t matter to Reddit” crowd.

kep ,
Syrc ,

Man, and that’s before the protests. For “spam” lmao, there’s entire communities built on self-promotion, those are fine I guess?

Anomander ,
@Anomander@kbin.social avatar

And no one is surprised.

Elon made it clear shortly after taking over that "free speech" was speech he happened to agree with, and he had no intentions of ethical consistency on 'free speech' when it came to speech that was critical of him or his platform. Twitter already went nuclear on links to Mastadon and similar alternative platforms earlier this year while their dumpster fire was raging.

bilb ,
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Yeah, I think what he said was that anything allowed by law would be permitted, whatever that means. But then when they started impeding links to mastodon he was like “we don’t have to let you advertise our competition >>>:(.” Elon/Twitter has gotten so tedious to hear about.

Anomander ,
@Anomander@kbin.social avatar

The thing there is that like ... it's not about consistency or values. The fact that he lied is meaningless to him, throwing it in his face is wasted effort. Communication is a tool to get what he wants, not a goal unto itself.

TwilightVulpine ,

Fee speech, pay $8/mo to post hate speech at your leisure.

ram ,

Anything I don’t like = hate speech. Got it.

TwilightVulpine ,

I don’t like when people use their boosted presence to say that minorities are a threat and ought to be exterminated, yeah.

What’s with people pretending we are talking about pineapple on pizza whenever hate speech is mentioned?

ram ,

What’s with people pretending we are talking about pineapple on pizza whenever hate speech is mentioned?

Because some people (and reddit users in particular) use the strategy of putting everything in the same bag to silence dissent. All it takes is the majority calling ‘pineapple on pizza’ hate speech and now nobody can talk about it in fear of being called a hater.

Rom ,
@Rom@lemmy.world avatar

All it takes is the majority calling ‘pineapple on pizza’ hate speech and now nobody can talk about it in fear of being called a hater.

Do you have a single example to back this up or are you ready to admit you’re just talking out of your ass?

ram ,

Do you have a single example to back this up or are you ready to admit you’re just talking out of your ass?

I do. Discussing whether trans women should be allowed to compete in women sports will get you branded as a transphobic right wing nazi in 99% of Reddit’s subs, and probably banned too. Once you are labeled your arguments are moot, because you are a hater.

TwilightVulpine ,

You’ll find no lack of people with very good arguments about this matter, as well as many who are tired to rehash it over and over again when it has become very clear that many are not satisfied simply with setting rules for women’s sports. There are people being radicalized through a minor issue into generalized hate. For an example, what is happening in US Florida is not about women’s sports.

But I wasn’t even talking about women’s sports, I was referring to how there are people literally referring to minorities as subhuman and calling for them to be wiped out. Is that not hate enough for you?

For someone so concerned that your arguments might be mischaracterized, you sure are quick to make sweeping assumptions about people you don’t know.

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