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Pixel ,

I think rebranding Twitter as x was pretty stupid. I wouldn’t have minded it if x was like a parent app and it was “Twitter by X” or something. But now they’re just alienating their users.

heliodorh ,
@heliodorh@beehaw.org avatar

I feel like normally I would share y’all’s view on this and be like “good” but now I can’t help think about how Twitter was a critical space for organizing a lot of resistance movements. Really starting to believe those pieces that were like “Musk bought Twitter to bury it”

We were all like “he’s not that smart” at the first few articles, but now I’m like, this dude has poisoned the well so utterly - and now he’s getting rid of blocking, apparently? - like, fuck. (And yes organizing on a corpo platform was never going to be truly reliable/safe, but still, esp for folks just getting exposed to activism, this “on ramp” space going to shit really sucks.)

I know we’ll always find/create new spaces for ourselves, but this is a blow to a lot of networks.

Krackalot ,

I absolutely believe he intentionally tanked it. Getting funded by the Saudis, though, means that he doesn’t have to be smart to do it. He’s just a puppet. Easy to manipulate, because though he doesn’t need money, he does need attention. Perhaps the easiest kind of manipulation.

dontcarebear ,

I also believed he did it out of personal motivation, but what’s this about Saudis and being a puppet?

WeedAndVideoGames ,

The Twitter buyout was partially funded by Saudi investors, and there hasn’t been much public discourse about whether they’re pissed it’s value has tanked or whether they wanted that to happen all along.

reuters.com/…/saudis-kingdom-holding-company-main…

fades ,

Anything Twitter can do so can mastodon. Resistance movements can move forward without x with little issue. Twitter isn’t and never was special it was simply there at the right time. It’s not anymore and that’s okay because we are not helpless without some shit social media site.

Power to the people not corps.

MiddledAgedGuy , (edited )

I think this is a valuable point.

I saw the headline and thought “and nothing of value was lost”. But reading this was a privilege check. I’ve never needed Twitter or anything else to help resist because my way of life isn’t really being challenged.

I think it’s a lesson as you point out. Don’t trust corporations. And I would add don’t trust centralized platforms either. But decentralization is a two edged sword. You’re protected from a single entity’s agenda, but the dispersed nature of a decentralized platform will make it more difficult to come together for a cause.

Edit: spelling

bruzie ,
@bruzie@lemmy.nz avatar

Oh no!

Anway…

blackstrat ,
@blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk avatar

https://lemmy.fwgx.uk/pictrs/image/1c22b96d-0301-484b-9463-a682b08f0bbc.jpeg

xinsights ,
@xinsights@mastodon.scot avatar

@gsa4555 seeing this everywhere from people complaining that all they see is posts of Elon - honestly they’re the only folk posting

MayonnaiseArch ,
@MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org avatar

it’s probably not the best place to say this, but it’s a shame. Twitter had real use and this bastard used his reverse midas touch on it to the detriment of all of us who aren’t nazis. Well I hope his sheik boss lets him suck him off now as a reward

Jomn ,
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Well, my main issue with Twitter is that it is used for official communications, and sometimes is the only medium that is used. To me, official communications should go through platforms that aren’t owned by a private company. This is where Mastodon/Firefish would be great alternatives, since governments or institutions could set up their own servers, while still being part of a wider network.

MayonnaiseArch ,
@MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org avatar

Hey absolutely, it’s insane having oligarchs control our infrastructure. But even nationalisation is a better option than having these morons.

uberrice ,

See Heise for example, they have their own instance for their news posts. It’s great.

Tigbitties ,
@Tigbitties@kbin.social avatar

such a no brainer. It will probably never happen

Jimbo ,
@Jimbo@yiffit.net avatar

Yeah, I found it crazy that Twitter was used for official communications (especially from governments) when it started, and still find it crazy now

snowbell ,
@snowbell@beehaw.org avatar

Especially since compared to the total population hardly anyone even uses Twitter. But pretty much everyone has access to a web browser.

Thedogspaw ,
@Thedogspaw@midwest.social avatar

It was incredibly stupid to use Twitter like that considering your just given a 3rd party sensitive information and they have no incentive to keep that information secret

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

reverse midas touch

It’s called the Mierda’s touch.

fades ,

Twitter did have real use and now it doesn’t. Who FUCKING cares???

What does X do that mastodon doesn’t? There is much mastodon can do that x can’t. Where is the problem, outside of having to use a different url than x.com? People are resilient as are their resistance movements.

They can survive a platform shift, there is no loss here.

MayonnaiseArch ,
@MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org avatar

Sure, it’s just a shame. Mastodon sucks ass too :)

xinsights ,
@xinsights@mastodon.scot avatar

@fades @MayonnaiseArch I do think that Mastodon is GREAT :D but there's no harm in wanting multiple platforms for the range of people that there are. Competition drives inovation, and Mastodon has a few things it lacks that others already offer. Not saying everything needs adapted, I like what's on offer, but there will always be room for growth, and competing and sharing in other platforms growth could be beneficial. Twitter used to do great, and still could but as of now isn't.

communist ,
@communist@beehaw.org avatar

Competition often does not drive innovation in the software world, quite the opposite, free open source software allows collaboration between many people to better innovate than competition ever could, especially in this particular space.

xinsights ,
@xinsights@mastodon.scot avatar

@communist yeah open source brings people together to make it better. But better than what? Than the competitions! People would be happy with version 0.5 or something, but constant new technology changes in the industry push to make new and better tools for the open source world no??

communist ,
@communist@beehaw.org avatar

No… it can just be better, it doesn’t have to be better than the competition, this is a bizarre assumption you’re making here. We’re talking about a website where you post small snippets of text, there isn’t really much innovation to be done here, and even if there were, open standards that people co-operate on will see faster progress than a bunch of people trying to make the exact same thing separately.

You seem to believe that it’s impossible to just improve and innovate without competition, but that’s simply not the case.

xinsights ,
@xinsights@mastodon.scot avatar

@communist I don’t think it’s impossible, and I personally strive with the software I create to do exactly that and to join open source communities. Just what you are saying is only true if it genuinely was better. And it isn’t, it is great at something things and shit at others. And although it’s still improving it is behind others with many aspects that are getting talked about on the open forums and in the developer networks simply because of a little something called competition.

xinsights ,
@xinsights@mastodon.scot avatar

@communist I believe it’s possible. But not here yet. And the fact that you aren’t even open to see that there will be a need for improvement over time. And I see a lot more people vocally defending it to the end without seeing any of the arguments - and especially from a code base perspective trust me there’s things that will get left behind until it’s too late unless there are others pushing boundaries

communist ,
@communist@beehaw.org avatar

There may be a need for improvement overtime… but that has nothing to do with if competition is helpful.

This is free open source software, it’s better to have many people working together on one project than a bunch of projects being worked on separately, for reasons I think are obvious.

There isn’t a race to be the king of the fediverse, competition does nothing but make people work separately on something that should be worked on cooperatively, it accomplishes nothing but slowing down development. If we used competition, when a new feature was implemented, now instead of it being implemented for everyone, it’ll be implemented in one particular codebase, and if other people want to implement it, there will be a massive duplication of effort.

What does competition in this space actually do for the community? As far as I see it, absolutely nothing at all, except duplicating effort.

xinsights ,
@xinsights@mastodon.scot avatar

@communist okay I can see where you’re coming from - I just understood to start that you think it would thrive better without any other companies, and honestly the people on those platforms doing what they are doing wouldn’t come as benefit to a community like this nor would it get in the way if they continue. And the features set to come over the years are something that by…having let’s call them, colleagues in the industry, working on different aspects that may become of benefit

communist , (edited )
@communist@beehaw.org avatar

These aren’t companies, these are projects, lemmy/mastodon are co-operatively worked on and can be worked on by any number of companies.

I don’t want a corpo internet, that’s kind of the point of federation.

JoMiran ,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Reddit was pretty great. Anyways…

thoralf ,
@thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Can we fast forward to the moment when this actually happens, please?

ulkesh ,
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

I sure hope it fails. I hope he becomes poor and destitute. I hope his sycophants wake up from their self-delusion about him and he is effectively lost to time. He is a useless, waste of existence.

Asor ,

And this guy still has millions of fans, as if he was the god of technology. I can’t understand some people.

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    invno1 ,

    Going to space isn’t unique but there are only a few companies trying it.

    wintermute_oregon ,

    If you ever get bored. Read the story of Bigelow Aerospace. That is an interesting story.

    GreenMario ,

    Simping for narcissists seems to be humanity’s strongest trait.

    CanadaPlus ,

    We do do it a lot. I’m not sure why, hornyness and tribalism are our other invariants, and those don’t enter into it directly.

    ConsciousCode ,

    Cults of personality tie your identity to the target, such that at some point they could literally shoot someone in the streets and it’ll still be excused. To do otherwise would break your ego which most people aren’t willing or prepared to do.

    Moonrise2473 ,

    He ordered some h1-b slave to turn off the server with the database of all the url shortened until 2014. How much money this move can save? $500 per year? How many gigabytes a database with all the URLs shared in 3 years can be?

    ExLisper ,

    0.01GB

    Engywuck ,

    Hopefully… So we won’t have this guy mentioned 10 times per day everywhere.

    Micromot ,
    @Micromot@lemmycook.de avatar

    There is a Browser extension called: “Block The Rich”, which blurs every headline and image about a major billionaire so you can avoid them.

    Engywuck ,

    Well it’s not because of his wealth, is more because Twitter/X news have become really boring.

    upstream ,

    Unlike news about the Boring Company, which always was 🫣

    CanadaPlus ,

    I feel like Musk is >3/4 of all annoying billionaire stuff at this point. When was the last time you even heard a quote from Bernard Arnault?

    Micromot ,
    @Micromot@lemmycook.de avatar

    Also bezos and trump are blocked

    CanadaPlus ,

    Oh, that’s fair I guess. Trump’s not technically a billionaire but he does make a big stink, and Bezos is a major contributor to the 1/4.

    Micromot ,
    @Micromot@lemmycook.de avatar

    It’s just generally annoying rich peopel which get way to much news coverage and are generally annoying people

    thingsiplay ,
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    theangriestbird ,

    “The sad truth is that there are no great ‘social networks’ right now,” he said on X.

    None that he owns, at least…

    Rentlar ,

    I might go as far as saying Twitter was great in terms of influence until someone bought it.

    For me right now, Lemmy is pretty great… Lots of love for my fellow Beeple.

    theangriestbird ,

    Lots of love back to you!

    skellener ,
    @skellener@kbin.social avatar

    Shocker! 🤦‍♂️

    superkret ,

    !enoughmuskspam

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    superkret ,

    We also don’t need to be bombarded with everything he does on multiple subs.

    acastcandream ,

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    superkret ,

    It’s the 5th post about him I saw today.

    acastcandream ,

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    superkret ,

    Clean up your feed

    working on it, lol

    averyminya ,

    W-what do you feed on if it’s not simple things like Firefox?

    almightyolive ,
    @almightyolive@aus.social avatar

    I read that as "not enough musk spam" and thought you were taking crazy pills 😅

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