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How China’s internet police went from targeting bloggers to their followers

cross-posted from: feddit.org/post/2464367

In recent months, followers of influential liberal bloggers have been interviewed by police as China widens its net of online surveillance.

Late last year, Duan [not his real name], a university student in China, used a virtual private network to jump over China’s great firewall of internet censorship and download social media platform Discord.

Overnight he entered a community in which thousands of members with diverse views debated political ideas and staged mock elections. People could join the chat to discuss ideas such as democracy, anarchism and communism. “After all, it’s hard for us to do politics in reality, so we have to do it in a group chat,” Yang Minghao, a popular vlogger, said in a video on YouTube.

Duan’s interest in the community was piqued while watching one of Yang’s videos online. Yang, who vlogs under the nickname MHYYY, was talking about the chat on Discord, which like YouTube is blocked in China, and said that he “would like to see where this group will go, as far as possible without intervention”.

The answer to Yang’s question came after less than a year. In July, Duan and several other members of the Discord group, in cities thousands of miles apart, were called in for questioning by the police.

Duan says that he was detained for 24 hours and interrogated about his relationship to Yang, his use of a VPN and comments that he’d made on Discord. He was released without charge after 24 hours, but he – and other followers of Yang – remain concerned about the welfare of the vlogger, who hasn’t posted online since late July.

The incident is just one sign of the growing severity of China’s censorship regime, under which even private followers of unfavourable accounts can get into trouble.

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Being punished for comments made online is common in China, where the internet is tightly regulated. As well as a digital firewall that blocks the majority of internet users from accessing foreign websites like Google, Facebook and WhatsApp, people who publish content on topics deemed sensitive or critical of the government often find themselves banned from websites, or worse.

Last year, a man called Ning Bin was sentenced to more than two years in prison for posting “inappropriate remarks” and “false information” on X and Pincong, a Chinese-language forum.

Even ardent nationalists are not immune. In recent weeks, the influential, pro-government commentator, Hu Xijin, appears to have been banned from social media after making comments about China’s political trajectory that didn’t align with Beijing’s view.

Duan said that the call from the police was not entirely unexpected. Still, he says, the intensity of the interrogation caught him by surprise. “Just complaining in a group chat on overseas software is not allowed”.

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Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Poor Chinese, must suck living under such a shit state apparatus.

Kissaki ,

Makes you wonder how they identified them. If they know what he wrote and he was using a VPN, it’s r either state prosecution receiving information from VPN provider and/or discord, them sharing personal info, or backdoors being used.

Does discord respond to Chinese inquiries? The Twitter example with mobile phone numbers makes me think that may be the most likely identification.

Too bad the article lacks these details.

Aatube ,

My guess is they doxxed ‘em. It sounds pretty unreasonable for companies that don’t operate in the mainland to just give up their users. (Showerthought: Or maybe it’s cuz they don’t pay?)

BCsven ,

Use of a VPN can be detected by ISP inspection, they then probably had other survellance on why he was VPNing out, or the Influencer had another follower that was a plant and collected a list of thr followers

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