skullgiver , 1 month ago

Depends on the quality of the phishers I guess, but the phishing pages I’ve been emailed only work for the IP that first visited them, after that they turn to 404s or legitimate looking websites. Really annoying, because I wanted to report some domain as phishing to a domain registrar and the moment they checked my submission they told me not to file fake reports.

I suppose they could try to record all traffic and sift through it to record phishing pages, but somehow I don’t think they’re willing to collect the petabytes per day necessary to check back later. That’s the whole point of Cloudflare, they don’t store the code running websites, they just proxy connections towards these hosts.

As for telling who they are: I haven’t heard of Cloudflare ignoring any warrants. These hosters aren’t unfindable because they’re behind Cloudflare, the authorities just need to get their shit together to do something about them.

I don’t think the bad actors are a large part of Cloudflare’s customer base. I get why nonprofits, threat analysists, and other non-government organisations get frustrated when their work is so much easier with the shared hosts and server resellers, but they’re not the police.

I want Cloudflare’s abuse report to be better, but I don’t think the problems these blog posts have with Cloudflare will disappear if they do. Domains are quick and cheap to re-register, and abuse removal on a Cloudflare scale will probably bring the entire modern internet into a YouTube-copyright-strike system where a few automated reports can take down most websites.