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Click here to see the summaryThe so-called TS Cloud will apparently be âpurpose-built for Australiaâs Defence and National Intelligence Community agencies to securely host our countryâs most sensitive information.â The cloud is touted as giving Australia the chance to âimprove our ability to securely share and analyze our nationâs most classified data at speed and at scale, and provides opportunities to harness leading technologies including artificial intelligence and machine learning.â We understand that sum will cover the cost of building three dedicated datacenters, and establishing a local subsidiary of Amazon to run them and the cloud. AWS declined to answer questions about arrangements in place to make this a sovereign cloud and referred us to the deputy PM, Richard Marles, who also serves as defence minister. We asked his office for info on where the cloud will be housed, who will own the infrastructure, payment arrangements, and whether the job was put to open tender. This deal wonât change that stance: The Register is aware of government agencies building on-prem private clouds â sometimes on open source platforms â so they can scour code to soothe their security worries. â Saved 60% of original text.
Well I would think that if the customer, in this case the Australian Signals Directorate, encrypted all data prior to going to AWS, it would be protected from any data mining that Amazon does.
I am sure that the ASD isnât just posting the information unencrypted on AWS or solely trusting Amazonâs encryption where Amazon also has a copy of the key.
Well yes and no. For one there is lots of metadata like access times, the IPs that connect and their locations, traffic amount, etc.
But also like with all âcloud solutionsâ you are just outsourcing your uptime reliability issues. And for a system like that, im not sure outsourcing that is a great idea.
Yes that metadata can exist but canât that be obscured if AWS isnât connected to directly?
I think some of the technical details of how the ASD intends to ensure data protection/confidentiality/integrity are omitted for national security reasons.
It looks like it will be on prem, but then i dont even understand why they would involve amazon at all? Just use the existing public solutions. As soon as any major part of a system that is connected to the internet has proprietary code in it, you cant really trust it to protect secret information anymore.
Itâs wonât be on-prem, but it will be dedicated data centres, built and run by Amazon, so almost the same as. Why? Because AWS runs better data centres than the gov ever could.
Gov is outsourcing the physical infrastructure risk, just like any other ocmpany that puts their stuff in the cloud.
The register providing contrast to the AWS infrastructure build out:
The Register is aware of government agencies building on-prem private clouds â sometimes on open source platforms â so they can scour code to soothe their security worries.
Thatâs just a local data center, guys. Like how everything was done before âthe cloudâ became a buzzword.
There is some difference I see in the management layer, with more dynamic resource allocation in a cloud infrastructure compared to traditional data center usage.
Bahahahahaha ahhh fark thatâs farkin hilarious the Australian government are gonna do what? I can tell you from experience itâs gonna be completely farked like the nbn along with anything technological they have a part in
I donât really see the advantage here besides orchestration tools unless the top secret cloud machines can still share itâs resources with public cloud to recoup costs?