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Corgana ,
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This is either going to be amazing and bring in a bunch of new fans orrrr it could be Star Trek Renegades II

Also is that the guy from VEEP?

ValueSubtracted OP ,
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It is indeed.

Corgana ,
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neat!

ValueSubtracted OP ,
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I was hoping for something more suggestive of the story, but I’m actually very interested in anything that explores growing up in the Mirror Universe.

hopesdead ,
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That is why this is called a teaser.

ValueSubtracted OP ,
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I feel insufficiently teased!

hopesdead ,
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At least the plot was spoiled. Modern trailers tend to do that (from what I’ve read in recent years).

setsneedtofeed , (edited )
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I fundamentally disagree with how Section 31 has been handled by most writers post-DS9. It should be a conspiracy of like-minded individuals that exists parasitically within Starfleet, not an official (or an “unofficial official” agency). Starfleet already has an intelligence agency, which everyone seemingly forgets about. Section 31 is not an operation being run by them. Section 31 should be treated less like “Starfleet’s CIA”, and more like Bohemian Grove as it exists in the mind of Alex Jones. The only post-DS9 Section 31 stuff that really clicked was, surprising, the ENT subplot of Malcolm being a Section 31 asset, because it understood that it was the kind of conspiracy that embedded itself deep within Starfleet personnel and didn’t flash its ass at the universe.

This trailer does not give me confidence that the treatment of Section 31 as CIA action heroes is turning around.

ValueSubtracted OP , (edited )
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It should be a conspiracy of like-minded individuals that exists parasitically within Starfleet, not an official (or an unofficial official agency).

In fairness, Sloan said they were a branch of Starfleet Intelligence with an official designation in his very first appearance on DS9, and nothing that came after that really contradicted him (other than his obvious lies in “Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges”).

Whatever liberties have been taken since then, that wasn’t one of them.

astronaut_sloth ,

It should be a conspiracy of like-minded individuals that exists parasitically within Starfleet, not an official (or an “unofficial official” agency).

I agree. When 31 was first introduced, and Sloan explained that Section 31 was sanctioned by Starfleet under Article 14, Section 31 of the Starfleet Charter, the implication was that they were people who misinterpreted or construed a (probably minor) part of the Starfleet Charter and used it to justify damn near anything.

Personally, I hate how Section 31 has been changed to be misunderstood, cool good guy/anti-hero types who are doing the wrong things for the right reason. DS9 had it right with portraying them as the villains within who should be snuffed out because the ends don’t justify the means.

ValueSubtracted OP ,
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The only current show that hasn’t portrayed them as villains is arguably Lower Decks…

astronaut_sloth ,

Yes-ish. The characters were villains, but the organization wasn’t necessarily. For instance, in Discovery season 2, Leland and his crew were the villains, but Section 31 was portrayed less as an extremist cabal and more as a misguided morally-grey organization. Less a blight upon the Federation and more an uncomfortable, but integral, part of it.

@setsneedtofeed captures it well. Instead of being a cabal of extremists doing illegal and immoral things because they think they’re connected to a higher purpose, they’re a semi-official CIA-like organization.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that Section 31 isn’t supposed to be a cool or semi-legitimate organization (with ships, insignia, etc.) but rather shadowy and absolutely beyond the pale of legitimacy where very few can stomach what they do. From an artistic/thematic POV, Section 31 should be there to show us that a good society requires work to maintain and that its undoing can come from within by those claiming to protect it by eschewing that society’s values. In other words, the ends don’t justify the means.

ValueSubtracted OP ,
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Section 31 was portrayed less as an extremist cabal and more as a misguided morally-grey organization

My interpretation was more that they were “hiding in plain sight” at that point in time - Pike was under the impression that they were some kind of special forces, and learned the truth over the course of the season.

I only watched this trailer once, but I didn’t see any insignia, so I think S31’s exact status is still TBD.

buckykat ,

I literally cannot imagine a less appealing Star Trek than this.

reddig33 ,

That is a cool dress.

Snowyday ,

Rachel Garrett? Good

Young Rachel Garrett origin story? Great!

Rachel Garrett without red hair? Hmmmmm

ValueSubtracted OP ,
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Please, everybody knows Garrett’s natural hair colour is blue.

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