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MimicJar , in What do you like and dislike about Star Trek Enterprise?

The momentum.

We had 90s Trek rolling, TNG, DS9, Voyager, each one moving the world forward. Each show ends with an exciting “What’s next in the Federation”.

Then Enterprise comes along and takes us back in time. It’s an interesting time period to explore, but not what I was looking for.

We don’t move forward again until Picard, and that was solidly whatever and far removed from the 90s Trek momentum.

krakenx ,

You magnificently put into words why I always disliked Enterprise. By failing to continue the original continuity, I think it was basically the end of Star Trek for a lot of us.

Landmammals , in What do you like and dislike about Star Trek Enterprise?

Like: the theme song

Dislike: the theme song

directive0 , in What do you like and dislike about Star Trek Enterprise?
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It was cool because it showed a pre-federation starfleet. Humanity is the underdog scrappy little species trying to get its feet wet in a much larger galactic community. Because starfleet did not have technical parity with other races the stakes felt much higher for each encounter than in TNG or TOS era.

It was lame because it was ENTIRELY too horny. Also the Xindi subplot was painfully obvious as an allusion to the war on terror. It didn’t land for me.

Overall it was a great show though. It explored lots of interesting technical details of the world of Star Trek and attempted to explain their genesis. Reed alert, the prime directive, the paradox of being a diplomatic vessel with MACOs aboard and the jurisdiction of force.

I laughed at the show at its premiere, but by the end I was a die hard fan. They really won me over.

Telodzrum ,

It was lame because it was ENTIRELY too horny. Also the Xindi subplot was painfully obvious as an allusion to the war on terror. It didn’t land for me.

Obligatory Rick Berman is a piece of shit. The War on Terror arc is annoying, but in context I think ENT did a good job with it. For those who weren’t alive or culturally aware at the time of initial airing, basically every piece of media got darker and more fascist-curious in the few years immediately following 9/11. ENT is a great case study in this because the first season had wrapped before 9/11 and the Xindi plot to a very dark turn starting in S2.

aeronmelon , in What do you like and dislike about Star Trek Enterprise?

I like that we got four seasons of it.

I dislike that we were robbed of a fifth, sixth, and seventh season.

MartinXYZ ,

The last two seasons were really promising!

can , in Data & Picard - Pogo

And we’re sure this isn’t a selfhating gay man?

Potatisen ,

What?

can ,
ThrowawayPermanente , in What do you like and dislike about Star Trek Enterprise?

The decontamination gel was so cringe

valen ,
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I hated the decon gel. It was only there for eye candy, and really reduced how good any episode was if it was there.

Obviously, for me. I make no claim to how anyone else felt.

Landmammals ,

The decon room just reeks of Rick Berman

Infynis , in What do you like and dislike about Star Trek Enterprise?
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I liked seeing Captain Archer learn the lessons that would lead to the Prime Directive. Trip was a fun character, and I liked his romance with T’Pol. There were lots of good individual episodes, like the one about T’Pol having Vulcan AIDS, and Shuttlepod One. Any episode Commander Shran was in is great, especially the episode that Archer duels him. Jeffery Colms is the best. Brent Spinner was also great in his little arc. And, I legitimately liked the Xindi.

That said, the timing of the Xindi arc, in the middle of all the real-world stuff going on, was bad, and it had a bad message. I also did not like all the sexual stuff, especially the episode in season 1 where T’Pol gets forced into Pon Farr by a virus, and tries to have sex with everyone. And then just, like, the whole last half of the last season. Mirror Universe, gross. Trip and T’Pol’s baby dying, sad. Riker’s Holodeck cameo finale, disappointing. Fuck Berman.

AshMan85 , in What do you like and dislike about Star Trek Enterprise?

The intro song lol

MimicJar ,

The intro song takes time but if you listen to it fully and don’t just skip it you’ll find that it grows in you. Trust me it isn’t easy, but if you keep at it you’ll enjoy it. I used to be where you were, firmly in the stance that it wasn’t good, but now I’m of a different opinion.

You could say that it’s been a long road…

emeralddawn45 ,

That thing everyone hates isn’t really horrible, at least not if you brainwash yourself into liking it. You’ve just gotta give your brain Stockholm syndrome and suddenly it’ll actually be good.

MimicJar ,

It’s not brainwashing, it’s faith (of the heart)

TotallyNotSpez , in What do you like and dislike about Star Trek Enterprise?

I really liked the episodic concept of the first two seasons and how Starfleet started exploring space. Plus there were some great characters like Shran.

kamenlady , in What do you like and dislike about Star Trek Enterprise?
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disliked: Worst last episode of any Star Trek series. Voyager was bad enough, but Enterprise …

liked: Jeffrey Combs’ Andorian.

GreenEnigma ,

Jeffery Combs enhances everything he’s added to.

I bet he’d be good on pizza.

USAONE , in What do you like and dislike about Star Trek Voyager?
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  • teft , in One Star Trek Movie's Ending Drove Its Lead Actor To Tears
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    It’s Patrick Stewart.

    OP, why post clickbait?

    LordOfTheChia ,

    Yup, the summary is all in this one paragraph:

    Chronicled in the Star Trek oral history, The Fifty-Year Mission: The Next 25 Years, Stewart confessed that concluding Picard’s story took him by surprise. “I will say that at the end of the film, I’m saying goodbye to Riker and I found myself completely caught up in the moment. I broke down. Out of the clear blue sky, my emotions overwhelmed me. I collapsed in Jonathan’s arms and felt such a fool,” Stewart recalled (via Screen Rant). “The entire crew watched me cry and then started muttering, ‘What’s going on? Has he been drinking or something?’ But in that moment, absolutely everything coalesced—the feelings that I had for these people over the years. Saying goodbye was absolutely terrifying and agonizing for me.”

    athos77 , in Quentin Tarantino abandoned Star Trek movie for one key reason

    Quentin Tarantino didn't want his 'Star Trek' movie to be his final film.

    The iconic director was close to putting his own bloody stamp on the science fiction franchise but writer Mark L. Smith admitted despite going "back and forth" with the 'Pulp Fiction' filmmaker on some ideas, things didn't work out.

    He told Collider: "It was a different thing, but this was such a particular different type of story that Quentin wanted to tell with it that it fit my kind of sensibilities.

    "So I wrote that, Quentin and I went back and forth, he was gonna do some stuff on it, and then he started worrying about the number, his kind of unofficial number of films.

    "I remember we were talking, and he goes, 'If I can just wrap my head around the idea that Star Trek could be my last movie, the last thing I ever do. Is this how I want to end it?'

    Unfortunately, Tarantino - who has been open about his desire to retire after directing 10 films - couldn't "get across" that bump.

    Smith added: "And I think that was the bump he could never get across, so the script is still sitting there on his desk.

    "I know he said a lot of nice things about it. I would love for it to happen. It’s just one of those that I can't ever see happening.

    "But it would be the greatest 'Star Trek' film, not for my writing, but just for what Tarantino was gonna do with it. It was just a balls-out kind of thing."

    Although the writer refused to divulge any plot details about the abandoned project, he admitted the film would have had a "hard R" rating.

    He explained: "But I think his vision was just to go hard. It was a hard R. It was going to be some 'Pulp Fiction' violence.

    "Not a lot of the language, we saved a couple things for just special characters to kind of drop that into the 'Star Trek' world, but it was just really the edginess and the kind of that Tarantino flair, man, that he was bringing to it.

    "It would have been cool."

    stanka , in Quentin Tarantino abandoned Star Trek movie for one key reason

    I guess I’ll never know because i don’t click on click-bait.

    vzq ,

    Just as well. I’m getting a 451 because they aren’t allowed to sell my data without my consent.

    People of non-EEA countries beware: they are scum.

    charonn0 ,
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    I got through, but the article doesn’t render without Javascript. Nope.

    kamiheku ,
    YoBuckStopsHere ,
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    This IS the Star Trek community your commenting on.

    canis_majoris , in Star Trek's Jeri Ryan Felt "More Connected" To Seven of Nine in Picard Season 3 Than Voyager
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    Once they established her character as a, well, human, she was able to actually continue with the momentum set up in Voyager.

    The problem initially was that the Fenris Rangers stuff was weird random bullshit with no real explanation and effectively just made her a morally grey mercenary at best and an outright murderer at worst. I remember reading initially when she got the Picard script that she had a panic attack because she could not recognize the character at all.

    I will never get the image of Icheb getting his eye ripped out and cut out of my head. Stuff like that was absolutely unnecessary and made the show weaker overall.

    dpkonofa ,

    Holy shit, yo. He got his eye ripped out of your head?! That’s nuts. /s

    canis_majoris ,
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    Yeah I got one of those implants Geordi had in First Contact. They really wanted the Borg parts though.

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