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Bondrewd ,

All of these are equally just abstractions meant to portray reality.

I like to call these strings of coherency. There is no beginning or end to them. They are available in our situation because of their usefulness (also counting in abundancy or ease).

So if something is “not true” or “made up”, it is not debunked by undeniable facts. It is debunked by how grounded it is to innumerable amounts of information.

Thus you will never go all the way to debunk these. People who win something you know to be a “false argument” do so because nobody will stand up to him and go the x+10000 steps of reasoning he built up specifically for bulshitting he trained for.

On the other hand, all of the “false” and “true” labelled arguments most likely stretch into infinity. In the end it really comes down to your “convenience”. That is the closest word I have for it.

Its a mess, the purest thing you can ever have is consciousness.

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