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My new favourite password manager

I’ve always hated the idea of using a subscription/cloud hosting for password management. I feel like I should have a LOT more control over that stuff and I don’t really want to hand all my keys over to a company.

All my secrets have been going in a highly encrypted archive with a long passphrase, but obviously that isn’t convenient on all devices. It’s been fine, I can open it on any computer but it’s not super quick. It does have the advantage of being able to put in multiple files, notes, private keys but it’s not ideal.

Anyway, finally found something that isn’t subscription, and has a similar philosophy - a highly encrypted archive file, and it’s open source and has heaps of clients including web browser plugins so it’s usable anywhere, and you can sync the vault with any file sync you like.

Thought you guys might appreciate the find, password managers have always been a bit of a catch 22 for me.

Note for android i found keepassxc the best app, and i’m using KeePassHelper browser plugin, and the KeePassXc desktop app as well as the free official one. Apps all seem to be cross platform.

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Maybe a silly question, but since I am considering making the jump to a password manager too, I am curious:

If I have a selfhosted server at home that is not connected to the public internet, can I still ise Keepass? Does it have to constantly sync with the server or is it enough that when I get home my passwords are syncing? Could that be a problem?

Clearwater , (edited )

I use KeePassXC, but am assuming KeePass is very similar.

You’ll have a single file on your machine that is your encrypted password database. Syncing is not handled by KeePass and is your responsibility.

If you want to sync only when you get home, as long as your app to manage that is fine with it, KeePass won’t know or care.

Keep in mind if you make changes on two devices without keeping them in sync, one will probably get overwritten unless you take special care to handle it. (My sync app warns me, then I take both conflicting files and in the KeePass app, I can merge them to solve the conflict without data loss.)

zeluko ,

Ideally keypass would allow handling such conflicts internally.
Thats the big disadvantage of a single-file approach.

Could easily be avoided e.g. sync whole folder and now you can have multiple files, e.g. 1 write file per program used.

clmbmb , (edited )

You have your local replica of the database on your device and once you’re home or can connect to your home server (through VPN, for example) it will sync with the remote database. I used to have synthing running for this and it worked without issues.

nx2 ,

If your server is not “online” you could vpn into your home network and use it that way. Another option is to have it local, meaning for example with bit/vault-warden you can still view your passwords if you don’t have connection. But you can’t edit or add new ones

MonkderZweite , (edited )

Mine is a 3-lines-script that gpg-decrypts to runtime-dir, opens editor, encrypts back, deletes in runtime-dir. Password done via zenity/yad.

SpaceXplorer_8042 , (edited )
@SpaceXplorer_8042@lemmy.zip avatar

Why did people stop using notepads (actual physical ones) for this? No digital storage, no leaks. Besides, after a couple of times you get the muscle memory of typing in the passwords anyway.

PlutoniumAcid ,
@PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world avatar

My password manager contains about 600 passwords by now. I use 30+ passwords on a daily basis for work (IT industry) so no chance in hell that I’ll remember half of those. And the ones I need maybe once a year?? Good luck without a manager.

Undaunted ,

I have a different password for each service I use. Each password is 30+ characters long and completely random with letters, numbers and special characters. There’s no way I could remember any of them and they’d be a hell to type out manually. I use KeePass on every device I own and it’s synced over my NAS. So it’s super convenient and no risk for leaks.

CarbonatedPastaSauce ,

I did this, stored in an encrypted container, for a long time. Problem is it’s not scalable unless you start reusing passwords across different sites and services, which is itself a terrible practice.

Switched to Bitwarden (self hosted) several months ago and am very happy with it.

Appoxo ,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Try to remember (2m(&$9hso2 Ok_(#
We will see how fast you can remember that after a long and mentally exhausting work day :)

Rootiest , (edited )

I’m using randomly generated 64-character passwords with upper/lower-case letters, numbers, and symbols.

I prefer not to manually enter them every time.

Also someone could find and photograph your notepad and then all your passwords are compromised in one go.

pedro ,

Tell me you use the same password everywhere without telling me you use the same password everywhere

ebits21 ,
@ebits21@lemmy.ca avatar

And they’re very likely way too short

nucleative ,

Been a Keepass user for years and years. Absolutely top notch. There are plugins that can auto fill websites, that can open putty ssh sessions, basically everything you can imagine (or build).

thirdBreakfast ,

Love KeePass, I use it to store all my passwords including to SyncThing, then I keep my KeePass file in my SyncThing instance so I can recover from a disaster. Definitely nothing could go wrong with that ;-)

CarlCook ,

I really like Strongbox on Mac for managing my Keepass-DBs. It is very well integrated and there even is a „no phoning home“ version that strictly runs locally.

Rootiest ,

and there even is a „no phoning home“ version that strictly runs locally.

Shouldn’t that be all the versions?

Why would a password manager app that uses a local database need to phone home?

CarlCook ,

Maybe I expressed it a bit awkwardly. The other version has some integrations for syncing with Dropbox etc. and some third-party libraries. Strongbox zero is stripped of all of that.

Rootiest ,

Ok that makes more sense lol

stardust ,

Yeah, I’ve been wary of cloud based options so gone with KeePass and syncthing to leep things synced locally.

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