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catloaf ,

nginx has more features and flexibility than haproxy, such as being a web server. If I wanted just a pure proxy, I’d use haproxy. Apache is primarily a web server, and a pain to configure.

Personally I use Traefik. Add it to docker-compose, set up LE certs, add a few lines to each container, and it Just Works. No extra config on Traefik itself.

carloshr ,
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@selfhosted @Findmysec what is the problem with nginx? 🤔

possiblylinux127 ,

Security

Caddy is good but it tried to do to much. This means that security bugs could be way more common. It has been audited by outside people and the issues they found were fixed but I am will very doubtful that it is secure yet

solberg ,

I think a lot of people just haven’t heard of Caddy. Since I’ve found it I haven’t used anything else.

onlinepersona ,

It might be worth looking more deeply into. From a cursory glance, it might be usable for my usecase, but many service have configuration examples for NGINX (or Apache if they’re old). I’ve never seen caddy examples. What has your experience been with adapting those examples to caddy?

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EncryptKeeper ,

Caddy is so simple you don’t really need configuration examples. The extra configuration many docker services have you configure in Nginx are already done by default with Caddy. Though I have seen Caddy config examples around sometimes.

If all you’re using it for is reverse proxying, you don’t need config examples for Nginx or Caddy, just understand how to configure them.

atzanteol ,

Nginx scales better than Apache does for static content and proxying, so it started to take over market share.

A home gamer handling a handful of users is unlikely to ever notice a difference.

But the configuration for nginx is simpler nout of the box for most things which is probably the real reason people use it at home.

jimmy90 ,

Because pingora doesn’t have a Nixos package yet

PortugalSpaceMoon ,

IIUC pingora is not standalone, but a set of rust crates? Should be already supported by nixpkgs through rust builders.

jimmy90 ,

Yep it would need to be compiled from the configuration given. I’m vaguely interested in trying. I will look up the rust builders. Thank you

SexualPolytope ,
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Some people are also building a reverse proxy using pingora called river.

jimmy90 ,

Would that lack the performance benefits that pingora provides by being compiled without configuration file?

jimmy90 ,

I mean pingora out performs nginx which is why cloud flare made it, I believe

lemann ,

I was coming from Lighttpd which at the time had a very similar config syntax to Nginx. It was pretty much a no brainer, considering I wanted to shift to an automated Letsencrypt renewal process at the same time.

Sadly I wrote some python web services for CGI (not django/flask) that cannot be run anymore, since NGINX only supports FCGI, rather than just CGI as far as I can tell

2xsaiko ,
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fcgiwrap is what you want for CGI in nginx.

lemann ,

First time hearing of this! Thank you 😁

pcouy , (edited )

I’ll probably look into newer fancier options such as Caddy one day, but as far as I remember Nginx has never failed me : it’s stable, battle tested, and extremely mature. I can’t remember a single time when I’ve been affected by a breaking change (I could not even find one by searching changelogs) and the feature set makes it very versatile. Newer alternatives seem really interesting, but it seems to me they have quite frequent breaking changes and are not as feature rich.

That being said, I’d love to see side-by-side comparison of Nginx and Caddy configs (if anyone wants to translate to Caddy the Nginx caching proxy for OSM I shared earlier this week, that would make a good and useful example), as well as examples of features missing from Nginx. This may give me enough motivation to actually try Caddy :)

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DarkMetatron , (edited )

Because I have it in use as my main webserver, sure I could put that behind haproxy too but why? I like to keep my server setup small and easy, without unnecessary duplications. Nginx can everything that haproxy can, and more.

Decronym Bot , (edited )

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

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HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web
IP Internet Protocol
NAT Network Address Translation
SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
TCP Transmission Control Protocol, most often over IP
UDP User Datagram Protocol, for real-time communications
nginx Popular HTTP server

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eager_eagle ,
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Nginx handles more connections than Apache, given the same resources. HAProxy does not have web server functionality like the former two, so Nginx is the natural upgrade from Apache. Caddy is relatively new, I’m not sure how it compares other than being easier to set up.

tombond ,

Me personally, as a newb regarding proxy and homelab, I use nginx because it was super easy to set up (proxmox script) there were many tutorials available and it just works great. I had to debug some things and this also worked great, so just a perfect package.

Faceman2K23 ,
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NGINX is a bit more hands on than some other options but it’s mature, configurable and there’s a huge amount of information out there for setting it up for various use cases.

in my case, its what I set up when i was first getting into this and it works, so I don’t want to go through setting up anything else.

fmstrat ,

Because modsec.

aurelian ,
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What about envoy proxy?

Nothing else on the market has as low latency implications to workloads that I am aware of.

Findmysec OP ,

I have heard a lot about Envoy proxy from Istio but never looked into it for baremetal usage. I’ll keep an eye out, thanks

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