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Kalkaline ,
@Kalkaline@leminal.space avatar

I ate The Onion

scottmeme ,

There’s no way the copyright office is actually going to approve this right?

SkyNTP ,

I think this is satire. Poe’s law is stronger than ever

xilophor ,
@xilophor@lemmy.world avatar

According to Dr. Calibri, there’s a 99.9999% chance they will approve it :)

the_beber ,

This just in: Measurements are now limited to ~3M decimals.

Science is ruined!

Thorry84 ,

Including relevant XKCD as demanded by internet law: xkcd.com/10/

https://feddit.nl/pictrs/image/dd6e66d3-fbe0-4255-8dca-1dee435366b9.png

CanadaPlus ,

Oooh, a rare two-digit.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

If pi is truly infinite, then it contains all the works of Shakespeare, every version of Windows, and this comment I’m typing right now.

driving_crooner ,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

That’s not how it’s works. Being “infinite” is not enough, the number 1.110100100010000… is “infinite”, without repeating patterns and dosen’t have other digits that 1 or 0.

fubbernuckin ,

If it’s infinite without repeating patterns then it just contain all patterns, no? Eh i guess that’s not how that works, is it? Half of all patterns is still infinity.

driving_crooner ,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

Not, the example I gave have infinite decimals who doesn’t repeat and don’t contain any patterns.

What people think about when said that pi contain all patters, is in normal numbers. Pi is believed to be normal, but haven’t been proven yet.

An easy example of a number who contains “all patterns” is 0.12345678910111213…

OhNoMoreLemmy ,

No. 1011001110001111… (One 1, one 0, two 1s, two zeros…) Doesn’t contain repeating patterns. It also doesn’t contain any patterns with ‘2’ in it.

But pi is believed to be normal. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_number

So it should contain all finite patterns an infinite number of times.

kn0wmad1c ,
@kn0wmad1c@programming.dev avatar

Yeah, but your number doesn’t fit pi. It may not have a pattern, but it’s predictable and deterministic.

Ultraviolet ,

However, as the name implies, this is nothing special about pi. Almost all numbers have this property. If anything, it’s the integers that we should be finding weird, like you mean to tell me that every single digit after the decimal point is a zero? No matter how far you go, just zeroes forever?

pivot_root ,

In some encoding scheme, those digits can represent something other than binary digits. If we consider your string of digits to truly be infinite, some substring somewhere will be meaningful.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

One of the many things I loved about Sagan’s Contact is that, at the end, they found a pattern in pi when put into base 13. He didn’t really go into it as it was the end of the book, but I really wish he’d survived to write a sequel.

HatchetHaro ,
@HatchetHaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

to be fair, though, 1 and 0 are just binary representations of values, same as decimal and hexadecimal. within your example, we’d absolutely find the entire works of shakespeare encoded in ascii, unicode, and lcd pixel format with each letter arranged in 3x5 grids.

driving_crooner ,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

Doesn’t, the binary pattern 10101010 dosen’t exists on that number, for example.

leverage ,

You can encode base 2 as base 10, I don’t think anyone is saying it exists in binary form.

CanadaPlus ,

Actually, there’d only be single pixels past digit 225 in the last example, if I understand you correctly.

If we can choose encoding, we can “cheat” by effectively embedding whatever we want to find in the encoding. The existence of every substring in a one of a set of ordinary encodings might not even be a weaker property than a fixed encoding, though, because infinities can be like that.

LodeMike ,

Yes that’s why they specified pi.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

Still not enough, or at least pi is not known to have this property. You need the number to be “normal” (or a slightly weaker property) which turns out to be hard to prove about most numbers.

CanadaPlus ,

Wikipedia for normal numbers, and for disjunctive sequences, which is the slightly weaker property mentioned.

Ephera ,

> natural numbers
> rational numbers
> real numbers
> regular numbers
> normal numbers
> simply normal numbers
> absolutely normal numbers

Have mathematicians considered talking about what numbers they find okay, rather than everyone just picking their favorite and saying that one’s the ordinary one?

kibiz0r ,

Microsoft sues the Library of Babel

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