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The risks of downloading music at home with wifi

Like the stupid newbie goober I am, I forgot the first step to downloading music: do it in a public setting with a public wifi. Ended up downloading it all at home off of our private wifi. Did use a VPN but forgot to switch it from my home country. Kind of wondering how easy it is to trace me and persecute me for this. I am not the one handling the ordeal with the wifi, that would be my lovely mother.

Cheers y’all!

Moonrise2473 ,

It’s just music, not csam

There are many ai companies pirating millions of songs for their profit and they are operating without problems, what they’re going to do to an individual that “stole” a couple songs?

BlastboomStrice ,
@BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz avatar

Ayo, just saw this and wanna say that by downloading music from deezer it’s probably appearing as if you legitimately downloaded a lot of music today. Deezer even lets you download music offline. Kinda doubt anyone can tell apart legitimate use from your use. You didnt torrent music which could theoricially raise a red flag. (I have downloaded ~3k+ songs from my home netowork without vpn with Deemix in Greece.) You should probably be fine:)

clark OP ,
@clark@midwest.social avatar

I don’t even fully understand torrenting and how to do it, so I suppose that’s a relief in this case. I can be carelessly quick with stuff like this, lol.

hendrik ,

To add a bit: It doesn't make a difference whether you're use a cable or the wifi. It's still the same internet connection. What helps is the VPN connection. And it doesn't really matter if you're setting it to your home country or a random one. If it protects you as intended, they can't find you either way. And if it doesn't, you may be screwed either way.

sub_ubi ,

The country of the vpn server does matter, as does the home country. Your traffic may be encrypted and the vpn company may not keep logs, but the datacenters they’re renting likely do. Always favor countries that have the strongest privacy laws. i.e. not the US.

hendrik , (edited )

Is there some precedent to believe that they correlate (encrypted) datacenter traffic, find the patterns and actually use that somehow?

I mean I can see how that'd theoretically work under certain circumstances and low network load on the VPN server. But that's really complicated, circumstantial, unreliable and takes lots of effort and probably can't be used in court anyways. So I wonder if that's ever been done. Maybe for some circumstancial evidence for some proper crimes to find out where to investigate? And I mean I'm pretty sure the NSA snoops everywhere. Still they're unlikely to be able to look inside with just these tools. And they're also unlikely to prosecute some swedish user for some lame copyright violation.

Sparrow_1029 ,
@Sparrow_1029@programming.dev avatar

Don’t know if this will help assuage your fears: techradar.com/…/mullvads-no-log-policy-proven-aft…

I’ve used Mullvad for years, and from what I know, they store almost nothing – only your randomly generated account number. If you are paying using an anonymous method that’s even less to go on.

safesyrup ,

Depends on country and VPN provider

clark OP ,
@clark@midwest.social avatar

Sweden, Mullvad.

safesyrup ,

Then i dont see an issue here. Mullvad doesn‘t give out or log ip addresses. You should be fine

clark OP ,
@clark@midwest.social avatar

Super ^___^ Started to worry a bit but as long as a (good) VPN is in use I imagine I should be fine mostly.

Fisch ,
@Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The only way to find out it was you, would be to ask the VPN provider. Mullvad has a perfect track record of not keeping logs tho, so it’s very unlikely they’re gonna get anything from them. All that work wouldn’t even be worth it for someone just downloading some music like you do.

I have my torrent client running 24/7 connected to a different VPN to my home country, Germany, as well and nothing’s ever happened, even though Germany is pretty strict when it comes to this stuff.

clark OP ,
@clark@midwest.social avatar

Thanks for the info!

Kind of irrelevant, but anyone should feel free to answer: according to Swedish law, downloading music is legal as long as the artists have authorised use of their work and it is only played privately (not distributed). However, my friend argues that artists don’t consent to their music being pirated, thus making the downloading illegal.

Curious about what the people in this community think about his argument. Personally, I was taught that anything you post can be up for debate and freely used, so if artists consent to having their music posted on Spotify / YT / etc., then they subsequently consent to having their work downloaded. Am no legal expert though.

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