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paraphrand ,

This would be quite the compounded shitstorm if these were still being used in Macs.

darcmage ,

What I’m really waiting for someone to figure out is what makes the 13th/14th gen 7/9 series processors more prone to these failures compared to the 1/4/6 series and why the 12th gen chips remain unaffected given the minor architecture changes.

Contramuffin ,

Not sure if you saw Level1Tech’s recent video on the topic, but he speculated that it could be the area connecting the cache to the cores, as that was apparently changed to accommodate for more cores in the 13th/14th gen parts. The change was speculated to have made the connection weaker and more prone to degradation, especially when the connection was expected to communicate with a lot of cores (hence why this occurs mainly on high core count parts)

darcmage ,

Thanks, I watched it but I must’ve missed that part. If it does turn out that the 900mhz boost to the compute fabric is at fault, Wendell seems to be implying it might not be possible to solve with a microcode update. I hope that’s not the case but I guess we’ll find out soon enough.

AllNewTypeFace ,
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Intel, the Boeing of silicon

mumblerfish ,

Is there a test to see if your cpu has deteriorated?

Wooki ,

Crash frequency continues increasing and its random reason. Level 1 tech have done a heap of research on the topic

Speculater ,
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So it may not be my SSD causing random crashes on my Raptor Lake??

Wooki , (edited )

if it is for random reason.

Means if the crash errors are for random reasons: its highly likely the processor if you have the series of concern.

Speculater ,
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Weeks of stability and days of headaches, a complete OS wipe helped for a bit, but not fully fixed and I replaced my SSD.

Contramuffin ,

Level1Tech did mention your exact issue as one of the common symptoms that would occur on degraded 13th/14th gen parts. It’s looking like it’s the CPU’s error, not the SSD

b000rg ,

I’m surprised Intel hasn’t gotten into the planned obsolescence game yet. If your CPU goes out, the easiest, cheapest solution is always a drop-in replacement. Not like you can easily switch to a different brand. Just par for the course for the race to the bottom.

CaptObvious ,

I’m surprised Intel hasn’t gotten into the planned obsolescence game yet

Judging from this post, they just figured it out.

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:

One of the telltale signs of these stability issues on Raptor Lake is the “out of video memory” error message that pops up in games such as Fortnite.

Cassells claims that his studio has received thousands of crash reports from players using 13th and 14th-gen Core chips and that his development team has personally experienced “frequent instability” on their own Raptor Lake-powered PCs.

But Cassells reckons there’s a more substantial underlying problem here than mere glitches of instability solved by motherboard configurations.

“Over the last 3–4 months, we have observed that CPUs initially working well deteriorate over time, eventually failing,” he claims.

This 13900K went into a gaming PC with a lower-end motherboard that by design can’t max out the chip’s power usage.

Cassells also recommends players, whether they’re hosting their own servers or just playing a game, to avoid Raptor Lake processors.

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