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orcrist ,

Racism, discrimination, xenophobia, patriotism, nationalism, they will always exist. The question is how each society will handle them.

Thorny_Insight ,

It’s because the word has entirely different meaning now than it did back then. The vast majority of people would struggle to name even one literal nazi that’s still alive today. Instead we incorrectly use that term to describe people we don’t like such as Trump and Elon.

Ephera ,

Because a specific group of populists ‘lost’, but populism still works and will continue to work wherever there is people in dire situations.

The more dire your situation is, the more you need a solution. And then someone telling you “it’s the fault of those other people”, that just offers up a real straightforward supposed solution.

Even if it’s pretty clear that it cannot possibly actually solve the real problem, the prospect of a mild improvement will have many going along and ignoring morals.

LustyArgonianMana ,
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Nazis are a type of narcissist (racial narcissist). Capitalism and advertising reward narcissism of all types because it means they are insecure and wanting more in life. Narcissists then flop between types of narcissism until they can get the supply they want. Like George Santos being a drag queen then homophobic congressman - it was about narcissistic supply the whole time for him.

VelvetStorm ,

Because we have been letting them run their mouths again without being afraid.

You wana know how to get them to shut the fuck up look up why nazis don’t go to punk shows anymore.

You want to get rid of them. You have 2 options 1 is illegal, and I can’t say what it is, and option 2 is through education and thearpy and them wanting to change.

bastion ,

It’s just the age-old cycle of bad losing to good losing to weak, losing to bad.

Texas_Hangover ,

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  • Zier ,
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    It's because men with zuper tiny penis' need something to do, to prove how "manly" and "strong" they are.

    Don_Dickle OP ,

    I hated nazi’s to begin with. But after reading all these comments it makes me hate them even more. I do not know when the US turned to listen to even the most remote nazi?

    Zier ,
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    So just to add some factual context here. Your Dad fought actual nazis. The people we call nazis are not actually (nor will they be) that powerful. The world thanks men like your father for their success.
    The losers we call nazis today also go by many names, christians, christian nationalists, evangelicals, KKK, racists, bigots, white supremacists, dictators, etc. But the one name that actually describes who and what they are is Fascists.

    Windex007 ,

    There have always been susceptible idiots.

    Nazi’s are just a byproduct of an eroding standard of living. When things are good and getting better, there just isn’t the fertile ground for that kind of ideology, even among the idiots.

    When standard of living is on the decline? Anyone who gives a simple answer and a simple solution gets the attention of idiots.

    Don_Dickle OP ,

    It reminds me of and I don’t know where I read it at but there was this guy who was trying to sell his pet rock in Africa. And told the buyer it keeps lions away. The buyer asked how does it work. The seller simply told him you do not see any lions do you and the buyer bought it.

    apex32 ,

    It could be a joke that’s been around forever, but I know it from The Simpsons: youtu.be/4GzMizVAl-0

    ZombiFrancis ,

    As actual living memory fades away it almost seems like a natural inevitability. It is already as mythologicial to many as World War 1 cavalry.

    bastion ,

    This.

    Good people make soft people make bad people make good people.

    Kaboom ,

    Well, right now, it’s popular to be anti-zionist. And anti-zionists just aren’t gate keeping the way they need to.

    Icalasari ,

    The US imported a LOOOT of Nazis to get access to research - Operation Paperclip. So Nazis in government jobs given immunity

    It makes a lot of sense how that bled out

    alcoholicorn ,

    Paperclip is the hangout for Operation Bloodstone.

    You can lie and say nazis like Werner Von Braun were actually apolitical smol beans who just wanted to do science, you can’t even pretend random commanders and officers were.

    Icalasari ,

    Woo, I learn more horrifying things every day!

    Mango ,

    To give an intellectually honest guess, I’d say the honest among them think that form of socialism is the best way to handle resources and that violent revolution is the only way to get there effectively. The dishonest among them likely just wanna exploit the rest of them.

    Don_Dickle OP ,

    Yea but what happens if the succeed in a violent revolution. Then the other side comes along and overthrow them?

    Mango ,

    With another violent revolution? Iunno. Ask those guys.

    Don_Dickle OP ,

    Wouldn’t really be violent we just take back the government then put them on trial for the world to see.

    Mango ,

    But how?

    MrBobDobalina ,

    With peaceful violence

    Ephera ,

    The Nazis called themselves “national-socialists”, because socialism was popular at the time. Anyone who actually wanted socialism would have voted for the social-democratic party (SPD) or the communist party (KPD). The actual politics of the NSDAP were very much focused on the nationalist, xenophobic part. You just rarely have the baddies calling themselves “the baddies party”.

    sharkfucker420 ,
    @sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

    Blackshirts and Reds by Michael parenti explains it very thoroughly and gives great historical context.

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    rikudou ,

    They didn’t lose. You’re probably talking about Nazi Germany. Yes, that country lost. Doesn’t mean Nazis in Germany magically disappeared. Doesn’t mean Nazis anywhere else disappeared. Your dad never won over Nazis, just one particular Nazi country.

    Don_Dickle OP ,

    Even though he fought all across Europe?

    hydroptic ,

    That still doesn’t mean that all Nazis just magically stopped existing. Sure, a lot of them were killed in the war, but way more of them didn’t

    goferking0 ,
    jodanlime ,
    @jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

    The Nazi party fled to many corners of the globe. Fascism exists outside of the Nazi party. Between those two things, fascism never really died. The Nazi party was shut down, made illegal in much of Europe. The other fascists welcomed those that made it out. Most modern day fascists that use Nazi imagery are called neo-nazis. Not the same group from WW2. Neo-nazis have been around for decades. Until recently they were not nearly as organized.

    Don_Dickle OP ,

    Not promoting violence but can we do something against them to make them feel marginalized?

    jodanlime ,
    @jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

    I’m honestly not sure. You could try doxing the lower ranks, they need jobs and employers don’t usually love Nazis.

    Don_Dickle OP ,

    Just thought I would cash in on making fun of all the nazi bullshit if someone would sponsor me LOL.

    jodanlime ,
    @jodanlime@midwest.social avatar

    Now that’s an idea. I’d join that patreon.

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