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Aurix ,

Not a big fan of these victorious memes when it is more than clear that this is just a really bloody war for minor territory movement at this point. The initial moments of gigantic advances are less and less likely with more entrenchment.

nuke ,
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“war for minor territory movement”

This is a war for Ukraine’s survival. Ukraine doesn’t want Russian territory, they want their own land and people that were taken returned to them.

Aurix ,

I mean the current situation of losses versus territorial change is quite questionable for both sides.

nuke ,
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It’s not questionable at all, though. This operation has been a resounding success. Ukraine gained hundreds of POWs that can be used to exchange for their own people, they’re digging in and holding land and resources that can later be used during negotiations, and they’ve proven not just once but twice they are capable of sudden surprise attacks that can puncture Russian lines and take huge amounts of territory in a single sweep. That last fact alone will force Russia to recalculate their placements along the front line and move more troops to reinforce perceived weak points, taking focus away from elsewhere.

Serinus ,

What if Putin just screams, “nukes nukes nukes!”? Should everyone immediately capitulate, thereby ensuring every other country in the world chases nukes for leverage?

cows_are_underrated ,

This has nothing to do with the comment you replied to.

TankovayaDiviziya ,

Using nukes is a cry for desperation by Putin, and that would look bad for him for the Russians and for the rest of the world.

Goldmage263 ,
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Thanks for explaing it so succintly for those that read after. I’ll add that this also expands the options avaliable to Ukraine in future combat fronts, pulling Russian attention and resources, and likely securing more current information on Russian troops. Not that Aurix will try to think about it or be convinced.

Aurix ,

I am not about this operation in particular which obviously makes sense and does see its success. In the grand context of this war the daily losses to human life is just too great for whatever these sides try to achieve. There won’t be a magic collapse at this point with the speeds of territory changes. Ukraine swept into this poorly defended territory easily, as soon as entrenchments are built, it will be a slow moving, bloody fight as everywhere else on the frontlines.

These propaganda memes trying to pretend there is some magic win button just ignore the reality of how resource grating this war really is and in jow much trouble Ukraine is since the fall of Avdiivka.

Lemminary ,

East Ukraine is struggling rn.

NegativeLookBehind ,
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I love this. 🇺🇦

N0body ,

The constraints of not committing theater-wide war crimes do slow you down, but it’s also nice to have souls and not be orcs.

CanadaPlus ,

And not give free morale to the enemy. It’s not just ethically correct.

cows_are_underrated ,

No Dakka Dakka Dakka?

HappycamperNZ ,

Im sorry, I know what each of those words mean but you’re not making any sense?

cows_are_underrated , (edited )

It refers to the fact that the orks in Warhammer 40k like to use “Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka” as a War cry.

Gsus4 ,
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This is way too credible :D

j4k3 ,
@j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

Special operation to reclaim the ancient capital of Ukraine – Moscow

mindbleach ,

Putin: “Ukraine is Russia.”

Monkey’s paw: okay.

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