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Zeppo , in Ok, who had "We just ignore them and keep buying grain?"
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I have to admit that I rolled my eyes at the idea that Putin would start a war with Israel.

drzoidberg ,
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Israel commits a dozen war crimes by breakfast. All Russian civilian areas would be bombed to hell of he started a war with them.

Zeppo ,
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Yeah, they can barely handle Ukraine it seems, so my impression is they’d be fucked. However that could also pull in Iran and Saudi, which would be bad news for the world in general.

Squizzy ,

Israel are the authoritarian bigots with the stamp of approval. I hate Israel’s Government.

problematicPanther ,
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Let them fight.

Squizzy ,

If only it was the governments that fought and not the innocents.

Zeppo ,
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I thought about this and…what government do I actually like?

Squizzy ,

I like a fair few of them, it’s important to recognise things going right and absence of lunacy, but I like almost all of them more than Israel’s

troyunrau ,
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I suspect that Israel would respond against the Russian-supported regime in Syria, rather than in Ukraine.

SatanicNotMessianic ,

Israel per se has fuck all to do with this, to be honest. Attacking a foreign flagged civilian vessel is a big deal, especially when the eyes of the world are upon you and you cannot declare something to have happened on the fog of war. There’s an American P-8, which is an intelligence as well as an anti-ship/anti-sub plane, covering the ship. No one knows what it’s rules of engagement are, but the implication is that it’s there to defend the civilian ship. Attacking the US plane would be an act of war. Attacking the ship may trigger the American plane to defend it by launching weapons against the attacking vessel.

The one thing that the Russians could legitimately do is block the ship physically. They can play chicken by threatening to steer into it, but I can’t think that they’d risk widening the war at this point. No shade on Ukraine - this one is going to go down as one of the greatest victories in the history of warfare - but if they can’t make progress against Ukraine then NATO will go through them like crap through a goose.

Zeppo ,
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Sure, it’s been pretty obvious that NATO would massacre the fuck out of them. Doubtlessly Putin has known that for some time.

problematicPanther ,
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I don’t think we need to be caring about who would win in a conventional war with Russia. We need to be worrying about who would lose in a nuclear exchange with them.

kaffiene ,

Everyone. Themselves included

Zeppo ,
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pretty much everyone is not stupid enough to do that, because as we’ve known since the 60s at least, we’d all lose. Russia has nuke subs ready to do retaliation, we have a fuckton of them too, China does, random other countries like the EU and even Israel is ready to nuke the fuck out of everyone else just in case. Putin makes weak nuclear threats and he knows that “we’ll nuke you!” would result in most of Russia being completely smashed, along with most of the EU and USA. The danger is some idiot feeling nihilistic and egotistical enough to try it. It would never be a reasonable policy decision by any country.

BeMoreCareful , in The furries are doing their part o7

Do you know the meaning of real fear?

Do uWu?

HuddaBudda ,
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I say a man that is willing to put that much of himself on display fear only but one thing, and that would be bubble gum.

VanillaGorilla ,

Oh shit, I haven't thought of that. But that would be a proper nightmare.

Ocelot , in Final Countdown 2: a movie about the USS Nimitz traveling forward in time and defeating the Russian invasion

Loved that movie! I’m a sucker for time travel stories.

auhu , in Think the watermelon seller can make Putin cry?
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I'm extremely out of the loop

what the erdogan doin

PugJesus OP ,
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I think I saved this around the time Erdogan gave the Ukrainian prisoners he totally pinky-promised Putin he'd keep interned back to Ukraine

Ildar , in Think the watermelon seller can make Putin cry?
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My avatar from the same artist

Braydox_ofAstroya , in Watermelon of Kherson, what is your wisdom?

The Watermelons of kherson are not all accounted for.

You never know who else might be listining

Braydox_ofAstroya , in Modern warfare has evolved

Favourite level in MOH frontline

jeltebr , in Watermelon of Kherson, what is your wisdom?

Damn Chernobyl still has it

ThePyroPython ,

RBMK Reactor Feedwater Mellon.

TimeNaan , in Ukrainian artillery operator scary

Look at the armband. This is Azov neonazi propaganda.

PugJesus OP ,
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For those not in the know, the Azov Battalion was originally a volunteer unit that was founded by far-right figures (and admittedly, and somewhat bizarrely, partially funded by a Jewish-Ukrainian oligarch). However, in 2015, it was folded into the Ukrainian National Guard, and subsequently subjected to the ordinary controls on recruitment and retainment (ie active neonazis were kicked out).

There is some suggestion that the unit still has elements of a far-right culture that linger, but it would be disingenuous to continue calling them a neonazi unit, as recruits from all over Ukraine regardless of leaning or origin; Jewish, Liberal, Leftist, etc; have been assigned to the unit through normal channels and very few of the original members remain.

TimeNaan ,

The wolfsangel is a nazi symbol.

CookieJarObserver ,
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TimeNaan ,

I would actually like them if they weren’t nazis.

I support the ukrainian people’s fight against russian fascism, but will nevet support ukrainian fascists.

CookieJarObserver ,
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Nazis that fight for their Jewish president… But yes. The Russian propaganda is more important than facts.

PugJesus OP ,
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I appreciate that you are trying to keep a nuanced view of things and not trying to support an 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' mindset. Unironically, I absolutely agree with your stance regarding not supporting Nazis even when a common foe is about.

However, as outlined, Azov is, at this point, not much more than an ordinary Ukrainian National Guard unit with a sordid origin and a very questionable symbol it's retained from that, not unlike the symbol of Finland's air force.

Ilovethebomb , in Choose your spirit war criminal

I wanna play with Catra’s ears. I don’t need a reason.

Cylusthevirus , in Noncredible weaponry
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whileloop , in Choose your spirit war criminal
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I need a Clone Wars version of this…

TonyTonyChopper ,
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Start off with “and she was a good friend” in the middle of 4 overlapping circles

Roundcat ,
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She-Ra is basically star wars isn't it?

Ilovethebomb , in Noncredible weaponry

Would this work with normal rifle powder? I imagine you’d need a particularly light load. Wouldn’t a shotgun work better?

PugJesus OP ,
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Careful, we wouldn't want to be credible!

Fuckfuckmyfuckingass , in Noncredible weaponry
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I’ve Invisioned a similar device, but with one of those Can Cannon AR-15 uppers.

BB69 , in ONE OF OUR'S

I believe he also tends to have a Baby Yoda patch on the front of his body armor

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