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Arotrios ,
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Spacey's had a bad rep in the industry for his behavior for awhile - he was a well known bully on set, and it was a running joke in LA in the 2000s that if you're young and male, you don't get in a cab with Kevin. That being said, I'm not surprised the verdict came down this way - male sexual assault victims are marginalized to the point of invisibility, and mocked when they make a stand.

I have no doubt that he's guilty of what he was accused of and suspect there are probably more victims. The results of this trial speak more to his wealth and power than to his innocence.

b000urns ,
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The hell? You’re happy he got off on a technicality for a host of assaults so your conscience can be spared?!

ModernRisk ,
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Is there any actual evidence, he actually did all those things (without consent)?

themeatbridge ,

Is there ever any actual evidence? Isn’t that precisely why sexual predators are able to get away with it so frequently?

ModernRisk ,
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Without evidence, there’s nothing. It would mean, you, me and anyone else can be charged for “sexual predatory behavior” and prisoned for years. While we did not do anything at all.

Not-guilty until proven is a thing.

Also do you realize what this does to someone who’s not guilty? Wrecked career, wrecked mental health and reputation to the ground.

BraveSirZaphod ,
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There's a lot of room between a court not having enough evidence to convict someone of a crime and that person having done zero wrongdoing, and society in general does a very bad job at navigating that grey space.

Being cleared of charges doesn't mean someone isn't a bad person. At the same time, simply being accused doesn't mean that someone is a bad person. There's worlds of nuance here, but this is the internet - the place where nuance goes to die - so I don't bother having any expectations at this point.

Aesthesiaphilia ,

He didn't get off on a technicality, a jury found him not guilty.

R00bot ,
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Not guilty means there’s some doubt, no matter how small. The jury could be 99% sure he did it and (by the book) he should be found not guilty. It’s almost impossible to prove something like this, so stuff like this frequently gets not guilty verdicts regardless of whether they actually did it or not.

ryno364 ,

Not guilty means not guilty. Thats kind of how our justice system works.

It’s a bit more reliable than a pitchfork mob on social media looking to fulfill their confirmation bias on someone that actually could be innocent.

Fog0555 ,

Not guilty doesn’t mean innocent. This is still a good step in the right direction though.

ryno364 ,

I didn’t look into it, but I’d say a court/jury declaring him as not-guilty is a bit more reliable than a bunch of pitchfork hungry folks on social media.

NuPNuA ,

No, basic societal conventions do mean that someone should be considered innocent until proven guilty though. Mob justice isn’t a good progression for our society whether it’s torches and pitchforks or social media cancellations.

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