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bobr , (edited )
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Then go to Russia

If I were in Ukraine, I’d be wishing for opportunity to go to Russia, because it’s one of the few ways to escape it… Thankfully I’ve left before the war started, so I don’t need to.

get you out of the “prison” that is supposedly Ukraine. 🙄

Supposedly?? What the hell do you mean by that? theconversation.com/why-banning-men-from-leaving-…

Wtf is the point of your comment chain?

And in the next sentence you say:

I’ve seen and heard no claims that Ukraine is kidnapping people off the street to be sent to the front, outside of Russian owned state media.

Well, exactly so that you have a chance to see it, and stop thinking of yourself as a good guy who is helping Ukrainians while in reality you are helping to murder us.

Here is an archive with tons of videos of kidnapping people: uadraftmuseum.ch
And inb4 you claim that this is Russian propaganda, here are links to other websites just with less content:
www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/…/ar-BB1naQUE
www.rferl.org/a/…/32310040.html
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66542065
theguardian.com/…/bribes-and-hiding-at-home-the-u…

The same media that hides and covers up the fact that Russia is doing exactly what you’re describing to its own citizens.

Well, I never claimed that Russia is the good guy here, but they are not doing exactly the same. They have conscription, but they don’t fucking kidnap people from the streets (or at least on a way smaller scale…) and they don’t turn their country into a mass prison that you can’t leave.

and the country chose to defend itself

Zelensky’s regime decided to turn country into a mass-prison and kidnap people and send them to die. It is not “country choosing to defend itself”.

I’m sure they’d be ashamed to know you think so little of your brother and sister Ukrainians

My Ukrainian “brothers” either already escaped Ukraine, or are trying to, or just trying to survive there. The “sisters” left a long time ago.

it sure sounds like you’d rather have a Russian boot on your neck

What “Russian boot”? I might have missed what happened to people in Crimea, living under “Russian boot” for 10 years now… How many have died or been repressed? From Russia’s hand I mean, not from Ukrainian shelling of Crimea…
But I mean yeah, obviously I’d prefer living under Russian boot than under Ukrainian boot, with Russian boot at least I’d not fear being kidnapped on the street and sent to die, and being able to freely leave a country sounds nice as well…

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