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jerkface ,
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

I guess when I hear people derisively calling someone gay, I just think to myself, “They mean the bad kind of gay, they’re not talking about me.”

Mouselemming ,

Like, uppity gay?

ChronosTriggerWarning OP ,

Yeah, kinda like that gay pride image of Putin. It’s mocking him and his draconian views of gay people, not gay people themselves.

jerkface ,
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

Kinda like that ONE time someone called someone gay and nothing like the billions of other times. Got it, how could I have ever been confused.

Has it occurred to you that maybe I object to that, too? It’s not okay just because it’s Putin.

MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown ,

I bet Austin is having a blast with this shenanigans.

jerkface ,
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

No. There is not a distinction. We’ve been working for decades to make weird okay. Fuck them for throwing us under the bus.

ChronosTriggerWarning OP ,

Weird is okay! It’s them freaking out at being called weird that’s actually, well, weird.

auzy , (edited )

If you’re a grown adult who isn’t getting offended by tampons or solar and aren’t absolutely obsessed with other people’s sexuality preferences, then Id say you’re in the clear.

As long as you’re not bragging about how great your daughter would be to sleep with.

I think there is disgusting/cringe weird and then there are people who are simply different.

People who aren’t trying to follow the standard template are awesome because they’re rare and they have unique experiences to add.

These guys however are all trying to follow a template, and went everyone else to follow it. And they’re trying so hard in a way that is so illogical it’s ridiculous because they want to be “alphas”

Sam_Bass ,

The different kinds of weird get lumped together in the media though

ChronosTriggerWarning OP ,

And that’s why i hope to clarify.

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

There is Portlandia weird, and then there’s “I want the government to track your menstrual cycles” weird.

ChronosTriggerWarning OP ,

Exactly!

Spitzspot ,
@Spitzspot@lemmings.world avatar

Creepy weird vs quirky weird

InputZero ,

Came here to say that. Quirky weird is wanting to wear a propeller hat as an adult because it’s fun and no one can tell you no. Creepy weird is wanting to wear a propeller hat to predate on children. They are not the same.

eestileib ,

I get to call myself weird. You don’t get to call me weird.

That’s how this goes.

ChronosTriggerWarning OP ,

I’m not calling anyone that doesn’t fantasize about their daughter or fuck living room furniture weird.

li10 ,

I like when people call me weird, means they’re comfortable saying it like it’s no big deal.

This is the goal for how I want people to view me tho

https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/9cb96931-9de8-488e-bc47-80dd9ad8f871.webp

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

i dont think now is the time to be muddying the waters. conservatives dont need the assist, youre just giving them an out

ChronosTriggerWarning OP ,

Do they accept being called weird? I think you give them entirely too much credit… but that’s just my opinion.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

no, they absolutely dont. giving them an option of 'good weird' is going to derail that

ChronosTriggerWarning OP ,

I get that. I don’t think they’re capable of that level of self reflection. To them, weird is BAD. It’s being a part of the “out” group, which is anathema to them.

5C5C5C ,

I think the point is that Republicans detest the idea of being weird no matter what, so they would rage at the suggestion of being a good weird anyway. To them “good weird” is an oxymoron, even though they are actually very weird and not in any kind of good way.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

yeah that makes sense. i was envisioning them attempting to 'own' it by jumping into 'good weird' with both feet.

but as someone else pointed out also, thats prolly giving them too much sefl-aware credit

Rhynoplaz ,

They’ve been bullying the good weirdos for decades, there’s no backtracking now!

Glide ,

It doesn’t matter. Convservativea cannot accept the notion of a “good weird” because it removes all justification from their beliefs. The whole conservative belief system is founded on the notion that there is an effective normal and that normal must be protected from those that would upset it.

They cannot say they’re the “good kind of weird”, because that means admitting that weird can be good. And if weird can be good, they have no ground to plant the roots of their beliefs in. They have to be normal, because if they’re weird, all the time they spent attacking others for being weird in the defence of what’s normal doesn’t make any sense. Calling themselves the good kind of weird is a complete 180 on what it means to be conservative and alienated a massive portion of their voting base who only vote conservative because they see people who are “just like them”, not weirdos who are willing to redefine sex and gender, or question historical narratives.

The “weird” angle of attack has been so effective because it deconstructs the very notion of what it means to be a conservative. Giving them an out through the “good kind of weird” doesn’t change that.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

this is a fantastic point, thank you!

Nougat ,

I think "scary weird" is an excellent clarification.

ChronosTriggerWarning OP ,

I heard it as if you’re fine being called weird, you’re the good weird. If you fight being called weird, then you’re weird weird.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

o0o0 i like that

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