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HauntedBucket ,

I am specifically waiting for this to happen so I can be part of the flood to Firefox when they finally throw the switch.

cRazi_man ,

Why wait?

Brave browser exists for those who are particularly attached to chromium.

HauntedBucket ,

I’m not touching brave with a 10 ft pole but thanks for your advertisement

tdawg ,

Lemmy always seems to hate Brave but no one ever says why

majestictechie OP ,
  • shady issues in the past from company
  • heavily integrated with crypto (controversial for some)
  • CEO is a transphobe
  • it’s still Chrome under the hood
ivn ,
  • CEO is also homophobic and a covid skeptic
  • the browser used to modify crypto exchange URLs to add it’s affiliate code to it
  • it used to collect donations for content creators without their consent
ZeroHora ,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

Why people always forget the simple:

Switching Google to Brave is not an upgrade is a sidegrade.

frankgrimeszz ,

My personal reason, I looked at their code and it was amateur town. Hacked together trash. There’s a proper way to modify Chromium and they didn’t follow any of it. In contrast, Vivaldi’s coders knew what they were doing. I don’t actively use or support Chrome, but if you’re going to do something, do it right.

ivn ,

I don’t know, I’ve seen answers to this so many times on Lemmy.

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve seen this answered so many times it’d make your head spin, looney-toons style. If you don’t know then you haven’t been paying any attention.

cRazi_man ,

I’m just learning about what all the fuss around Brave is. But I’d be interested to hear how Google seems to be the ethical choice for a daily driver browser currently. It’s obviously fine to not want to use Brave, but how is it the inferior choice when compared to Chrome (or even considered a sidegrade)? Even with all the issues mentioned I’d still recommend it as the lesser of the 2 evils compared to Chrome.

Sustolic ,

Brave is a great browser and the only chromium one I would ever use but mentioning it on Reddit OR Lemmy will cause you to get mass downvoted unfortunately

The browser lets you customize the dashboard so you can make the browser look as clean or minimal as you want with almost no distractions

Biggest issue I have with Firefox is that some websites can be broken but 99.9% of the time this is not Firefox’s fault and the only one to blame is lazy developer’s

Firefox out of the box doesn’t come with specific features that the websites that I use need which is why I haven’t made the switch yet, biggest one is that Firefox doesn’t work with Keychron’s in browser software that is used to customize their keyboards. Again this is not Firefox’s fault because Firefox didn’t adopt the feature because of security concerns which is completely valid and even commendable.

atro_city ,

While introducing opt-out tracking where you data is sent to advertisers. Get LibreWolf instead.

VarosBounska ,

Oh I didn’t know this fork, thanks!

30p87 ,

Or just set the few relevant settings manually, if you need nightly/dev edition.

atro_city ,

Until the next dumb shit Mozilla does without telling its users.

30p87 ,

Except I’ve heard about every change from here. And as I read the nightly changelogs, it’s not that hidden actually.

atro_city ,

Yes, you're the exception, not the rule.

30p87 ,

The things I said apply to the people that need to use FF nightly/dev. And those people should know their stuff.

rockSlayer ,

If you need to use nightly, you’re already the exception to the rule. That means you need to read the changelogs.

NiPfi ,

And in the meantime Mozilla keeps making worse decisions, too

gdog05 ,

Enshitification of all the things.

HotsauceHurricane ,

Someone who gives a damn needs to be in charge of mozilla but i dont see that happening.

thesporkeffect ,

As long as they are entirely supported by Google, they aren’t going to try too hard to outcompete them.

breakingcups ,

Wonder if the recent antitrust ruling about Google paying for being the default search engine will affect Mozilla’s funding.

ArbitraryValue ,

We need another meme like this about Firefox but with the first panel saying “Antitrust judgement against Google” and the second panel blank, without anyone coming to the rescue.

The large majority of Mozilla’s revenue comes from the money that Google pays to be the default search engine in Firefox.

Paradachshund ,

Has it actually been confirmed when it’s coming? I feel like this has been threatened for years now.

ivn ,

It started in june, for now it’s just showing a warning saying that the extension will soon no longer be supported. They’ll be disabled gradually until the beginning of 2025.

developer.chrome.com/…/mv2-deprecation-timeline

Paradachshund ,

Ah I see. Boiling the frog as it were.

VarosBounska ,

I do not study in detail if this combination is necessary, but:

  • Firefox (of course)
  • Ghostery
  • Ublock Origin
  • Privacy Badger
  • Decentraleyes
  • Disconnect
ivn ,

All of them except uBlock Origin are in Arkenfox “Do not bother” extension list: github.com/arkenfox/user.js/wiki/4.1-Extensions#-…

ssm ,
@ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar
darkevilmac ,
@darkevilmac@lemmy.zip avatar

Source: I made it up

ssm , (edited )
@ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I guess Anonym, PPA, Cliqz, pocket, the default telemetry that is non-trivial to disable, and whatever this latest nonsense is are all just hallucinations.

SuperIce ,

Mozilla is about to collapse due to the Google antitrust ruling though.

refalo ,

Um, what makes you think that?

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Mozilla makes about $590m a year.

$510m of that is from Google paying for the search engine default spot.

UNY0N ,

Well I for one hope they figure out an alternative income, like a premium subscription? Or perhaps look to get acquired by proton and get some integration going with those services? I’m no expert here, I just think that they have a lot of happy users, and there must be some way to figure this out financially.

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

How convenient that this happens just a few days after Firefox implements the features that have been blocking me from switching for the last few years.

Still, I’m curious about other browsers. We know Chrome is killing V2, but what about other Chromium-based browsers? I saw below a comment espousing Brave, but I’d rather use Chrome than Brave because of the gross crypto bs. What about Vivaldi, Opera, and Chredge? Will they keep supporting Manifest V2?

Tar_alcaran ,

just a few days after Firefox implements the features that have been blocking me from switching for the last few years.

Which are those?

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Multi-window support on iPad is the main one. Less important, though it would have bugged me if they didn’t have it, is sustained Incognito tabs—which apparently they had until a couple of months ago, then removed without explanation, then added back in just 1 day ago, also without explanation. Found a thread on their forums with a whole bunch of people perplexed and asking what happened.

AdrianTheFrog ,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

I use firefox, I mostly like it, but it still doesn’t support chromium style tab groups (no, that one extension is not similar), and its webgpu implementation also doesn’t work on most websites more than a year after Google made their version available by default

BarbecueCowboy ,

I’ve been using Vivalid, they have ‘Workspaces’ which is different but in a way that was a pleasant surprise and kind of reminds me of older systems. Imagine working with one tab group at a time and the rest disappear when you’re not on that workspace.

archchan ,

Tab groups are in the works but we haven’t heard anything new about it since March.

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