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fosforus , (edited )

You’re literally a self described libertarian lmao

Yes, well, some people are braver than others, and are thus able to declare what they believe in. What do you believe in?

Anyway, stop dodging the question. What economic writings have you read from Marx that you’re basing your opinion of Marx on? What problems did you have with them?

There’s a bit of a “oh, you like economics? Describe all economic theories then.” vibe here but I guess I started it. Sorry about that.

I don’t know why you would bring Marx into this. He was a philosophist, not an economist or a politician. As a philosophist, he was correct in many of his observations, the problem comes from trying to actually implement in the real world some of the things he said.

Historical materialism & class struggle for instance. He describes the change from feodalism to capitalism as it happened but then goes deep into conjecture land in fantasizing the future change to socialism and communism. When this was violently experimented with in 1900s, it didn’t go at all as he described. The class struggle is not inevitable at all, and only happens with a combination of bad leadership and agitation (check lemmygrad.ml for practical modern examples of latter). His idea of classless society was basically speculative science fiction, and still is.

I disagree with many points of his critique of capitalism. For instance, the value of a product or service is not derived from the labor put to it, but the value of the product or service to whoever is buying it. Thus surplus is a valid concept.

I disagree that wealth concentration is a fundamental problem. In the grand scale, more individual wealth leads to more happiness, so the important thing is that everyone’s wealth increases. If my neighbor gets 100x richer in real wealth in the time I get 2x richer, I will still be 2x richer. It only becomes a problem if those figures are 100x and 1x or worse, or if he uses his 100x wealth to buy an army to take my stuff, and my claim is that this is not happening in most of the capitalist world.

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