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fmstrat , in Liberal Economics be like

I don’t get it. Billionaires do billionaires things, but this meme being made the same week as a liberal policy requiring fair taxes for the rich to cover social security for the next 75 years makes this poster 100% out of touch.

SMTRodent ,

Liberal in economics and Liberal in US politics mean two very distinct and different things. It’s like the way a ‘runner’ in a race is different to a ‘runner’ in a restaurant. They’re not the same things at all.

Economic liberalism means free trade and deregulation. If it makes money, it’s good. Neoliberalism is also referred to as ‘hypercapitalism’.

‘Liberal’ in US politics means ‘left of the GOP’ and is its own unique thing. It bears no relation to economic liberalism at all. The two may coincide but they’re independent of one another.

madmaurice , in Wise one
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Are we pretending Facebook is not a dumpster fire?

Mininux ,
@Mininux@sh.itjust.works avatar

It is a dumpster fire, but it’s also profitable

madmaurice ,
@madmaurice@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

So is meth.

sheepyowl ,

Meth is a product that was found, and then developed and improved in order to be better at what it does. The expertise demonstrated in the creation of Meth shouldn’t be compared to Facebook, which is just the first product to come out of a market. Facebook hasn’t developed further as a social media platform, it has developed further as a money making device.

You could say Alcohol is the Facebook of drugs. Drugs have developed over a very long time unlike social media, so the history is much greater for this case, but the point is that alcohol, despite not being the best in all categories, is the most popular drug simply because it’s not as harmful as others (such as meth) and has been around for longer than the new, less risky alternatives (such as weed). I’m not considering coffee as a drug for this metaphor. Alcohol is making the most money not because it is good, but because the rest is mostly illegal, and/or less ingrained in social norms and traditions.

Point is, I kind of lost myself along the way and started rambling, comparing Facebook to Meth is not fair because Meth is not socially accepted while Facebook is, maybe compare Reddit to Meth, idk

HappySerf ,

I enjoyed this rambling analysis
5/5

skelpie , in Liberal Economics be like

There's 0 real economists who hold anything close to these views. What a stupid take. Before you downvote, I ask that you find a single source that contradicts my claim. Since all liberal economics is like that, it should be easy, right?

Smallletter ,

Doesn’t matter what academics think or teach when this is what happens in the real world

gundog48 ,

Examples? I would love some free billions!

SMTRodent ,

Well you need to start with a bunch of billions and some billionaire friends.

Void_Reader ,

Sure, real economists don’t explicitly hold those views. But the kinds of metrics and models liberal economists are fond of using basically lead to that flowchart.

UserDoesNotExist , in Liberal Economics be like

Now I must ask, who are you implying is giving money for free to investors?

Because that’s not how economy works.

alsaaas OP ,
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sir, this is a Wendies meme. In the end it boils down to the capitalist goverments bayling out those who don’t need it (billionaires and millionaires) and giving credit for virtually nothing. Ofc it’s a simplification since this is a meme, not a chart for econ class

UserDoesNotExist ,

But that’s how capitalism works. You invest your money into something instead of using it on yourself.

And in exchange for the risk taking, because each investment is a huge risk, you become (in case of stocks) a shareholder. And a as a shareholder and risk taker, you get compensated for your risk taking with dividends.

Why invest your own cash into something and take a risk without getting something in exchange? That would be considered stupid.

I invested into Wirecard back then and guess where the money went… Investments are bound to risk. And taking a risk must be rewarded.

30isthenew29 ,

I believe that’s how it works, but I just don’t understand how that makes any sense. They’re just playing with numbers in the air, making a line diagraph go up and down… I just don’t get it.

skelpie ,

The "line diagraph" represents real physical things that you can eat or sleep in or wear.

30isthenew29 ,

So they make the worth of that different? People give money so the worth of those things change? Who decides what worth is? What am I missing?

alsaaas OP , in Liberal Economics be like
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that’s billions of tax payers money with the tax burden being disproportionately heavy for the 90% while the 10% pay less and less taxes the richer they are

30isthenew29 ,

I like how on lemmy you see both how much upvotes and downvotes you have, on reddit you could have a score of 1 and don’t know much has happened, but with lemmy you could have 50 upvotes and 49 downvotes, making you really think about it…

imaqtpie ,
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Not only that, but admins and kbinners can actually view which accounts upvoted and which downvoted each comment.

skelpie ,

False, the bottom 90% paid about 25% of income taxes (in the US at least). https://taxfoundation.org/publications/latest-federal-income-tax-data/

alsaaas OP ,
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it’s about the percentage of income paid, not the net sum

skelpie ,

Ok, so what percentage of income do the various income brackets pay?

itspcp ,

Why don’t you look it up?

boredtortoise , in Liberal Economics be like

Liberal economics be like let’s get rid of capitalism

mathemachristian ,

No, those are socialist economics.

boredtortoise ,

To-may-to to-mah-to

mathemachristian ,
boredtortoise ,

Yeah that’s the scam. Not actually liberal

constnt ,

It appears you havent read your own link there.

feck_it , in Gamers gonna game

I am just reminded of that old pic that someone was taped to celling with their equipment and everything right now, they were playing some counter strike i think.

Shady_Shiroe OP ,
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Moohamin12 , in Water? WTF is that?

Is there a hydrohomies community here?

Bloxlord ,

Time to bring back WaterNiggas

alehc ,

We are hydrohomies now. People of culture 🧐

Magrid , in I heard they want to go full electric by 2035
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can someone please explain where the meme is?

danisth ,

volkswaGENITALIA

pimeys , in Oof 👀

Sweet popcorn, what kind of world is this?

Mampfred ,

German here, we mainly eat sweet popcorn. Salty popcorn is just a narrative by Big Cinema to sell more drinks.

bappity , in Third option
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that’s the confetti machine

smigao ,

I see they have the Fargo Account

empireOfLove , in 90's kids

Oh shit we’re reposting millenial-boomer memes off facebook now huh

Lemmy is truly a mainstream service now

danwardvs ,

You might want to reread it. There’s been a bit of rearranging of words.

HappySerf ,

"But I'm in such a hurry up shit on the platform I'm posting on!!"

Kolanaki , in It feels like the early days of the internet!!!!
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Maybe I’m just older and have been on the internet longer, but it doesn’t feel as much like the “early days” as it does feel like when I first came to Reddit after Digg died (without ever having been a Digg user; it just was a coincidence that I discovered Reddit because of the hubbub).

I’ve been online since 1990 tho. I was literally there for the beginning of the “World Wide Web.” The true Wild West of the internet.

ZC3rr0r ,

Back before music piracy was a thing; because who’s going to download a 3-4MB file on a 14k4 modem? By the time you grab one song you’d have racked up such an internet bill you might as well have bought the single.

Kolanaki ,
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I remember spending all day downloading files from a Quake server because I happened upon a server running Team Fortress and had to download the mod. On a 28.8k dial-up modem. It was like 500MB or something.

Then of course when I get into the game, it’s on ctf_crosstheborder and was the most confusing thing I had ever encountered.

Kirbenstein , in Stoner

Marijuana is absolutely physically addictive as much as people want to say it isnt. Mind you im someone who smokes the minute they leave work until they go to bed. So im not here to push any kind of anti-marijuana view point, but i do think we as stoners should be honest. Everyone i know who stops smoking weed has two very common side effects.

  1. They have a lot of trouble getting to sleep
  2. Wild/fucked up dreams.

I understand that this is a side effect of lack of REM but you cant say these aren’t physical withdrawal symptoms. Research is needed, but just because we all want it to be legal, doesn’t mean we should ignore the facts.

TranscendentalEmpire ,

Marijuana is absolutely physically addictive as much as people want to say it isnt.

I mean it scientifically isn’t though. Physical addictions don’t just give you psychological withdrawals, they are physical. Your body becomes dependent on them to maintain homeostasis.

Cold turkeying drugs like opioids and benzos can kill you.

demian , in Stoner
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I drink coffee everyday. I will rise my cup of Joe to the stoner. I get you bro.

NightAuthor ,

Thing is, caffeine is physically addictive. Weed is not.

But you can make a habit out of anything.

syzizeky ,

Cheers! I’d like to pass on this info though, for anyone who enjoys both like myself:

Caffeine drinking potentiates cannabinoid transmission: interaction with stress effects - Neuropharmacology 2009

Our data suggest that the cannabinoid system is implicated in the psychoactive properties of caffeine and in the ability of caffeine to reduce the pathological consequences of stress. Chronic caffeine assumption sensitized GABAergic synapses to the presynaptic effect of cannabinoid CB1 receptor stimulation by exo- and endocannabinoids. The synaptic effects of caffeine were slowly reversible after its removal from the drinking solution. Furthermore, although exposure to caffeine for only 24h did not produce measurable changes of the sensitivity of cannabinoid CB1 receptors, it was able to contrast the down-regulation of CB1 receptor-mediated responses after social defeat stress.

I copied the rest from bloommedicinals.com, just the relevant bits. Also added the links to the studies and the pages with additional descriptions.

TL;DR:

  • Low levels of caffeine can help to maximize the effects of THC, but too much caffeine can lessen the impact of your cannabis
  • Caffeine and THC can both increase dopamine levels, but too much at once can trigger anxiety, agitation, and paranoia

What Happens When You Smoke Weed and Drink Coffee?

Since coffee and cannabis may offer so many health benefits on their own, you might think it’s safe to assume that enjoying a little bit of weed with your coffee would be okay. The reality is … it might be safe for most, but not for all. Here’s why.

THC and coffee can boost the amount of dopamine in our systems. Although dopamine can promote feelings of happiness and euphoria, too much of it at once can trigger anxiety, agitation, and paranoia. In addition, both caffeine and THC can both increase your blood pressure and heart rate.

This is why many doctors advise that those with heart conditions and those at risk of heart arrhythmia or stroke, should not mix caffeine and THC. So, if you’re new to mixing coffee and cannabis, it’s important to consult your doctor to make sure it makes sense for you. If it does, begin with lower amounts of coffee and cannabis than you would normally consume on their own. Then if needed, you can increase your dosage slowly.

Back in 2014, a study was conducted to measure the effects of mixing caffeine and cannabis on squirrel monkeys. The results of this study were published in the Journal of Neuroscience. (also described here)

The monkeys were given the ability to self administer cannabis whenever they wanted. All they had to do was to pull on a lever. When the monkeys were given low doses of a substance similar to caffeine, they seemed less likely to reach for the THC. But, when they received high doses of caffeine, they seemed to reach for that lever more often.

Then in 2018, a study led by Marilyn Cornelis at Northwestern University’s Feinberg School of Medicine seemed to back up these findings. This time, the study examined the effects of mixing cannabis and coffee on humans. It found that the more caffeine people consumed, the less cannabis their body was able to metabolize. (also described here)

So, although small amounts of caffeine can help your THC go a long way – too much caffeine can lessen its effects.

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