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Hammocks4All , in Returnal Mario

It’s-a Nietzsche’s eternal return

some_guy , in It can't be

Though I’d seen it during the day all my life, I was in my twenties when my brain made the connection and I was deeply ashamed that it’d taken so long.

Allero ,

Nothing to be ashamed of - the world is too complex to connect everything, and we all miss out on something very simple :)

Somewhat related XKCD

Klear ,

I have an extension that tells me exactly which xkcd it is without having to click the link. It’s not a browser extension, though. It’s in my brain.

Allero ,

lol

Memory’s a weird subject

TargaryenTKE , in Me but ublock origin

Not gonna lie, I bit the bullet and got YT Premium almost 5 years ago. Honestly, one of the best purchases I’ve ever made in my adult life, hands down

Xavienth ,

Purchase? Subscription*

TheRealKuni ,

Agreed. Plus I know my views pay slightly more to creators than ad-supported views (and far more than ad-block views) so I can feel superior to my fellow man.

glitches_brew ,

I typically put children’s music on YouTube when driving with my kid. Not having to shuffle with the phone to skip ads while in the car is a life saver.

nexussapphire ,

I think it’s worth it too. People are just weird about paying for a product that supports individuals creative ambitions just because a company takes a cut. Admittedly better content than streaming services most the time anyway.

can ,

You could use an ad blocker and give even more to the creators you like via Patreon (or ideally better means).

TheRealKuni ,

¿Por qué no los dos?

selokichtli ,

Porque YouTube/Google gana mucho más que el dueño del canal por esa transacción, además de que lo hace explotando a cientos de miles o millones de personas en el mundo que quieren vivir de influencers.

Xanis ,

I’ve had it for AGES. I agree that ads have been a bit much and many websites almost unusable without Origin. YT Premium though has been fairly solid with a couple hiccups.

Admittedly, I use YouTube as my primary source of entertainment. So the price is easily justified vs other services.

PlantDadManGuy ,

I agree with you but it made me physically nauseous to click the button because I remember a time when YouTube was awesome and free from ads.

9488fcea02a9 ,

I had Youtube premium when it included google play music. GPM was so good…

I unsubscribed everything when they changed to youtube music. Terrible music platform

Ghostbanjo1949 ,

You’re going to make me cry remembering my days with gpm. Hands down the best music platform that was.

ColdWater ,
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

Is there any real benefit for using premium over Adblocker?

TargaryenTKE ,

Free (legal) movies. Most are stuff I don’t want to see anyway, but every once in a while a diamond in the rough pops up

Edit: Like someone else mentioned, YT is my primary entertainment source for a few reasons, so I’ve definitely gotten my money’s worth. I wouldn’t recommend everyone get it, but I’m happy with my decision

selokichtli ,

Doesn’t seem like you bit any bullet, you just paid for your subscription giving money away. What’s the biting the bullet part for you?

TargaryenTKE ,

Lol giving away money at all, especially to large monopolistic corporations like Google. They don’t need my money, they already have plenty

ohellidk , in As long as I get my 8 cumulative hours

Last time I used one, I got about 2 hours if sleep before it deflated. Kept trying to plug the hole but everything still leaked!

NigelFrobisher , in Returnal Mario

This is why Mario eventually turned into a cyborg and tried to wipe out the Mushroom Kingdom.

ramble81 , in It can't be

I always hated those “spot what’s wrong with the picture” puzzles where they would mark the moon being out as something wrong.

Obi , in It can't be
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

The moon feels much more real to me when I see it in the daytime. At night it’s so bright I can’t really make out the details (my eyes aren’t the best), but during the day I see it very clearly and it looks more 3D, makes it feel much more like the big rock in space that it is.

Hackworth , in Exterminate
Track_Shovel OP ,
@Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net avatar

That’s a skaven, sir

ChaoticNeutralCzech , in Time Crystals

In Czech, they used to be called “křemenné hodiny”, which has the same ring to it. If you told someone these words today, they would imagine a clock meticulously carved out of a quartz block.

TheAuthor_13 , in The hulkster won't stand for fair wages BROTHERRRR

Here’s another example of a fuckwit “celebrity” who just couldn’t keep their shit opinions to themselves & now they’re going to get absolutely drug for the next few months, their lives (hopefully) turned upside down.

Hope that RNC check was enough, burnt jizzbag

rayquetzalcoatl ,
@rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world avatar

I agree he’s a dick but his life being turned upside down? By who? A bunch of people on twitter? 😂

Modern_medicine_isnt , in Me but ublock origin

Or… do both. Buy premium because you are actually getting something for your money… a platform. And support ad blockers to stop the ads where the product is just a webpage.

chiliedogg ,

Yeah. I’m actually okay with paying for a service I use daily. Google does a bunch of evil shit to drive its advertising business, but the reality is that nothing is free and somebody has to pay somewhere.

We can pay with money or we can pay with ads and personal data.

What I would like to see is a law banning data collection for paid accounts. Because right now Google datarapes you even when you pay.

Doomsider ,

A privacy law that only works for paying customers? I think we can do far better than that.

chiliedogg ,

The economic reality is not everything can be free for everyone. Privacy is the price people pay to have “free” access to services.

But right now, even those who pay to skip ads or have additional features on a service are still being mined for data.

Doomsider ,

I deny your economic reality. There is no reason social media needs to charge. It can be run purely on volunteers and donations. It may not be able to be as big as FB but that is okay. We don’t need giant multimedia companies running social media anyways.

We need strong privacy protections for everyone, not just paying customers. It is time to put an end to targeted advertising.

chiliedogg ,

We’re talking about video hosting here. For a hosting site like YouTube that’s several petabytes of new storage added every day assuming no duplicates or backups of anything, plus the bandwidth, overhead, staffing, and more.

A project of that scale can’t be done by volunteer hobbyists with no money. What you’re asking for is for other people to work and spend billions annually without any expectation of compensation for just your entertainment, and you aren’t entitled to that.

Doomsider ,

Your inability to see the Internet as a distributed resource is astounding considering it’s purpose. I will repeat what I said before there is no reason social media can’t be done without the corporations controlling everything.

You can easily host your own videos, if everyone did and we used advanced sharing protocols the load can be distributed. The more people watching the more bandwidth.

You have become brainwashed into believing only YouTube can exist. You have bought into it so bad you think someone who wants your rights and privacy protected is a free loader.

We can do at all without them. There is something wrong and perverse about a single entity controlling that much of our culture. Too big to fail you say, I say too big to care about what really matters.

chiliedogg ,

Okay, let’s go with your idea that everybody has the knowledge and hardware retired to self-host.

What happens when Grandma’s cute video she uploaded goes viral and 11 million people try to watch it in a 24hr period? Would we rather it simply didn’t work, or does grandma get an unexpected $7,000 bill?

Doomsider ,

I setup a Plex server to stream media to my mobile phone anywhere in the world. It took me ten minutes of mostly pointing and clicking to setup. Please tell me how hard Internets are…

There is so much wrong with how you think. First of all why does Grandma want 11 million views!? I mean really do you even listen to yourself.

The answer to your question would be a protocol like BitTorrent. The more people who watch a clip the more distributed bandwidth would be available.

We have already passed the tipping point where creators are now paying more for their media to be consumed than they are getting paid. Where do you think this is heading? Do you want a future of YouTube enshitification!?

chiliedogg ,

You have a plex server. Okay.

I have a couple circular saws. That doesn’t make my garage a replacement for a lumber mill.

amorangi ,

but the reality is that nothing is free and somebody has to pay somewhere.

Youtube gained its market share and stopped any competitors arising by offering a free video platform. Now that there isn’t much hope for competition they have enshitified, plastering ads and demanding money. They endured massive loses for years just to kill competition. So boo fucking hoo when I continue using a monopolists products on the terms they originally offered.

Crampi ,

How do you explain wikipedia ?

VirtualOdour ,

Good loving people pay for it because they want it to be available to everyone in the world and it’s running costs are pretty low.

Tja ,

Video > Text

chiliedogg ,

Wikipedia isn’t video hosting. The angles of nenual hosting cost for Wikipedia is around 3 million a year. YouTube probably costs nearly as much per hour to keep running.

500 hours of video are uploaded to YouTube every minute. That’s gonna be like 60 terrabytes every hour just in storage space increases.

If you were to try and host that on a cloud server like AWS the cost would increase millions of dollars every day. Google self-hosted, but it’s still unfathomingly expensive. There’s still questions over whether YouTube profitable even with all the ads and the subscriptions.

Modern_medicine_isnt ,

Selling personal data at all should just be banned. It says personal right in the name… Giving away free services with forced adds is exploitation in my opinion. The first step to solving the issue is to require everything have a paid option that gets rid of adds and doesn’t sell personal data for additional profit. The hard part with that is preventing them from just setting the price unreasonably high.

chiliedogg ,

I’d imagine there’s a point where the money from subscriptions is greater than the money from advertising and data hoarding.

The “unreasonably high” prices should be self-solving in that context, because the company won’t make more money by selling ads for less than the price of a subscription.

In fact, in order to justify raising the prices too much they’d have to change more for the ads, which in turn would hurt the ad industry by reducing the ROI in marketing.

Modern_medicine_isnt ,

Yeah I never understood why ads make so much money. Seems like some kind of gift is going on.

ynthrepic ,
@ynthrepic@lemmy.world avatar

There is still shit to block when you’re paying for premium, so yeah.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

Nah, don’t give any money to google. They have enough.

HowManyNimons ,

Exactly this. Funding google is a bad investment. Exactly like the comic says, give it to someone who will improve your life.

debeluhar ,

I would pay, if they would offer family pack in our country, but they don’t. Netflix is cheaper for me, I have Premium plan for 10€, and I am splitting the bill with my sister, so I only pay 5€ per month. I am not paying more than that for a YouTube.

insight06 , in Returnal Mario

No Egress

Woht24 , in Exterminate

Know thy enemy

Thcdenton , in Exterminate
ClamDrinker , (edited ) in Me but ublock origin

I gave Premium a shot. Then the one time I wanted to use the feature Google said I was paying for - being able to download videos - I found out that it was just a glorified pre-buffer.

  • Can’t view the video outside the youtube app or the website, source video file encrypted ✅️
  • Can’t view the video if you havent connected to the internet in 3 days ✅️
  • Does less than your average youtube downloader that you can find for free with one search ✅️
  • Literally just saving Youtube bandwidth because they destroyed every benefit you would get if it was actually reasonable ✅️

Enshittification isnt just limited to free users folks. Slammed that cancellation button right then and there. Good luck earning back my trust, I’m happy to pay if you didnt scream so loudly that even if I paid, you were going to treat me like shit anyways.

khaleer ,

Make sure that google can’t kill you without consequences after you bought one month of their subscription.

BeardedGingerWonder ,

Ah yes, the Disney model

Tja ,

I pay for it and I like the perks. You are giving YouTube money, but also the creator of the video. And synchronizes the view with your account. And takes it into account for the dreaded “algorithm” (which I also find useful, plenty of cool channels discovered thanks to it).

What did you expect, exactly?

SkyezOpen ,

Ever go to a video website, click a download button under a video, and NOT have that video in your downloads folder? Literally that. That’s what i expect from a download button.

Tja ,

On android the download folder is a mess. I honestly prefer to have the videos in the app. I used newpipe before and it was a bit less convenient (although more flexible).

Never used it on a computer, tho, that would make sense there.

Steak ,

I only use YouTube on PC. I’m kinda old school now though. My phone is pretty much just a phone now. Only app I use is lemmy other than maps and normal stuff. No social media on my phone.

Tja ,

Isn’t lemmy social media? Mora than YouTube IMHO.

Steak ,

I consider lemmy in different realm of social media. The people here are not at all like the people I meet irl where I live. If I ever met someone from my small town who even knew what lemmy was id shit myself.

ClamDrinker ,

I get that. It would be totally fine if it just gave the option. But yes the issue is more egregious on PC.

ClamDrinker , (edited )

I like those perks too, but if I pay more to be able to download videos (which again, I could’ve used a free tool for) I want to be able to do whatever I want with it. Download means getting a file I can watch using my own video player and store for later even if Youtube dies tomorrow, If I go on holiday without internet, or if my internet goes down for a week. Anything.

If Google is going to be “Uhm aksually, you are technically downloading it, thats why we can advertise it like that”, then I’m already downloading literally every video I watch. And thats not the kind of bullshit you give to a paying customer. That is spitting in my face for paying you. Why does a non-Premium user get better service with free third party youtube downloaders?

It’s a matter of principle.

Tja ,

I see your point. For videos I want to hoard forever I also use yt-dlp, but for watching colbert on a plane, the app does just fine.

ClamDrinker ,

Yeah, I thought it was a nice compromise. It seemed sensible that if Premium is the ‘compliant’ response to not wanting ads, the ‘compliant’ response to using third party tools to download videos was to just be able to do things more easily and with more options through Premium as well. But apparently they wanted to advertise something anyone who’s wanted to download a youtube video would not describe as ‘downloading’, which is easily out competed by free (but at times shady) tools.

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