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stupidcasey ,

The more time I spend with Linux the more I realize that Distro doesn’t matter, GUI doesn’t matter, experience doesn’t matter.

Distro doesn’t matter because you will inevitably come across something that you need that doesn’t work on your distribution.

GUI doesn’t matter because no matter what you do you will %100 have to use the terminal and if you can do it once you can do it again.

Experience doesn’t matter because if you’re inexperienced you have to go outside your Comfort zone, if you’re experienced you got there because you like going outside your comfort zone and you will constantly stay in that state.

superkret ,

The mindset of a true Slacker.

Jallu ,

I guess the username explains the response totally.

boredsquirrel ,
@boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net avatar

Nobody calls me a Slacker!

Boxscape ,
@Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The mindset of a true Slacker.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/TU4QqMDjdPkAAAAd/intergalactic-back-to-the-future-intergalactic.gif

cmgvd3lw ,

Well your arch broke, didn’t it?

scroll_responsibly ,
@scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It’s arch… of course it broke 😂

tentacles9999 ,

I wish gentoo was more explored, I felt the same way and then it finally scratched the itch of things working (perhaps even too many options). I actually ended up using gentoo because it was less of a headache to just get things to work in a way that does not feel hacky

msage ,

Right?

Gentoo is the best, every time kids scream about AUR I just chuckle to myself.

treadful ,
@treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

I moved to Arch about 20 years ago because I wanted Gentoo but I didn’t want to wait hours for compilation. I remember it fondly though. emerge was kind of a killer feature.

Though I gotta say, I’m a bit more curious now that we have better processors. And I’m curious what I’ve missed over the years.

tentacles9999 ,

With binary packages it’s actually doable on a laptop. Also newer laptops have tons of low power cores which are great for something highly parallel like compiling.

zephr_c ,

I tried out Gentoo for a while, and just using binaries for the web browser and office suite made the compile times a complete non-issue. The problem I had that made me give it up was that when there is software you want that isn’t in the official repos there are a thousand different ways of getting it, and all of them suck. Overlays are supposed to be the solution for that, but man that experience was just awful.

I tried all kinds of things, but in the end all the options basically boiled down to risking breakage, maintaining my own packages, or not using emerge at all, which just feels like it’s defeating the whole purpose of being on Gentoo in the first place.

DaGeek247 ,
@DaGeek247@fedia.io avatar

That huge chunk of learning required for arch when you've never used Linux before is really hard to imagine when you have years of experience working Linux under your belt. That does not mean it doesn't exist for new users though.

That shit's complex and long. Much as I appreciate the sentiment of "the distro doesn't matter" I really can't agree.

mihnt ,

Instructions unclear. I’m running Gnome on Mint.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

I realised the same thing.

When I was switching from Windows to Linux on my PCs (both at home and at work), I originally wanted to use Debian because I’m most familiar with it and have been running it on servers for 20+ years.

I have to use Fedora at work though - it’s a lightly-modified version of Fedora that runs some automatic configuration on first boot and first log in for things like ensuring disk encryption is enabled (including adding randomly-generated secondary keys for IT support), 802.1x certificates for Ethernet and VPN auth, Chef, endpoint security, etc.

Anyways, I started using it and love it. I’m running it at home now too.

474D ,

WTF are you guys doing with your PCs??? I’ve been running Mint for over a year now and the only time I’ve used the terminal was to open a port for Chromecast. I browse, I game, I watch shows, etc. maybe I’m just really lucky, idk, it’s been nothing but smooth sailing.

bitfucker ,

Same could be said for any other distro. I think his point is that when shit just works, nothing makes a difference between distro. Be it Arch, Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Gentoo

pmarcilus ,
@pmarcilus@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

We have become philosophers of our own, as tweaking Linux has been a way to meditate our stressful mind to overcome the difficulty of touching grasses.

stupidcasey ,

I personally use it to run a headless docker on fedora 40 server with containers holding jellyfin, filebrowser, pia, qBittorrent a desktop in noVNC a pfsense server, and probably some stuff I forgot.

Why is that not a standard use case?

But in all seriousness I guess I get your point.

dimath ,

Yes and no for me

Distro doesn’t matter because they only differ in package manager and initial configuration, you can always compile things is you really need it.

GUI doesn’t matter because you’ll end up with all KDE and gnome dependencies installed anyway because your application need it.

Experience probably matters, but if it doesn’t it may be because there is just so much there to know.

_____ ,

And I fucking soared

(Btw)

Beaver ,
@Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

Time for Gentoo

Beaver ,
@Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

Gentoo and Slackware are for no mortals

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

The only people I know who are still running Slackware are doing it via Unraid.

mutter9355 ,

Yes, Debian packages are old. Tell me again when your arch install breaks for the 4th time this week.

nifty OP ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

I mostly use Debian and Fedora, so you’re preaching to the choir

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

and you have a choice with Debian. You can run:

  • Stable if you want stability, meaning it doesn’t change often (minor updates only).
  • Testing if you want newer packages that have at least gone through some level of testing. They’ve been in unstable for at least 3-10 days with no major bug reports.
  • Unstable/sid if you want to assist the Debian project by reporting bugs (which is always appreciated!), or want the “breaks all the time” experience of other distros.
forrcaho ,

Debian unstable doesn’t break all the time, tho. There’s only been a handful of times in my 27 years of using it that something got truly borked.

(That’s not counting times when two packages have the same file and there’s a conflict. That’s trivial to resolve once you’ve seen it a few times. Even that is relatively rare.)

exu ,

Arch doesn’t break all the time either, but it’s a meme and therefor 100% true.

srestegosaurio ,

I literally have my OS set to be as bleeding edge as possible since I find it fun. That’s until it breaks, then I hate myself.

Ig doing sysadmin is my hobby.

djsaskdja , (edited )

I’ve never had Debian or Arch completely break, but have had my share of annoying bugs with both of them. Biggest issue I kept having with Debian is it’d just get stuck and wouldn’t update. Think it was 12.4 I had this problem with. Way more annoying than anything Arch did to my system. I’m using Fedora now days.

Same issue as this person: forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=156345. That’s not even mentioning the 12.3 debacle which I was thankfully spared of.

dinckelman ,

The amount of uninformed, stereotyped memery in this comment section is actually unreal

srestegosaurio ,

NixOS:

a whistle is blown, people start running out the trenches rifle in hand. Shouting while bombs pounder around, you stay still, disoriented. The general grabs your jacket and starts screaming. You cannot figure a single word of what he says, he just puts a monad into your hands.

0laura ,
@0laura@lemmy.world avatar

a monad is a monoid in the category of endofunctors

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