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Ted Tso gives some insight on the LKML on the Red Hat & IBM approach to software

lkml.org/lkml/2023/7/6/1228

From Ted, the ext4 maintainer, on the LKML a few days ago.

The thread is about mainlining bcachefs but the post from Ted, who from what little I know seems about as trustworthy as ext4 has been over the past few decades, gives an interesting overview of the business approaches to software of IBM, Red Hat, Google & Sun Microsystems.

Of general interest to myself but mainly posting as it seems relevant to the recent changes in RHEL, CentOS, Rocky, Alma & Fedora over the past few weeks/years and gives some context of how we got where we are from ~2010.

Raphael ,
@Raphael@lemmy.world avatar

OP’s argument is mostly this

IBM hosted that meeting, but ultimately, never did contribute any developers to the btrfs effort. That’s because IBM had a fairly cold, hard examination of what their enterprise customers really wanted, and would be willing to pay $$$, and the decision was made at a corporate level (higher up than the Linux Technology Center, although I participated in the company-wide investigation) that none of OS’s that IBM supported (AIX, zOS, Linux, etc.) needed ZFS-like features,because IBM’s customers didn’t need them.

So it’s about money and they don’t care about innovation or anything like it. Just like Microsoft. It’s such a shame that Red Hat was sold to these guys, Red Hat did so much good for the linux community.

appel ,

I met the guy who made bcachefs in Philadelphia and watched a play with him. we then walked through the city at night for 3 hours.

dannoffs ,
@dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Better him than the ReiserFS guy

DaveX64 ,

Was there meant to be a linky?

SnailMagnitude OP ,
@SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz avatar

linked added to the OP…odd, I posted it as a link, but added an image which seems to be the only visible content.

Sorry, new here & confused by stuff.

lkml.org/lkml/2023/7/6/1228

DaveX64 ,

No worries, I’m new here myself :)

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